AMD or Intel?

[tEh koRnDog]

Looking to build a desktop...What are the pros and cons to each? One better than the other or will I not notice a difference in a computer just for basic needs, and the occasional movie editing and shit like that?

[SyKo13]

AMD

Don't know why, but just stfu

Ask TulsaMike btw

[pl8er]

Hrm....well lets go like this

AMD if you want a lower price overall (although price to performance is lower) but you could build for far less.

Intel will have better technology, they are using a smaller nm technology which means cooler temps and smaller dies.

Overall, at this current time, Intel dominates price-to-performance. You will get more speed for the dollar with an Intel chip.

Quality, they are about identical.

[tEh koRnDog]

How is $65 for 2.7ghz? Dual core..

[pl8er]

but there are so many options anymore that this becomes far more complex. Are you thinking of a dual core, an ultra low power processor a quad core, etc? There are also tri-core solutions, core2 (intel) the newer faster and more expensive i7 (intel as well). You can build a cheaper system using AMD.

To your post above this that just popped up (man I live live topic) what processor is that model number

[pl8er]

are you looking at the 7750 black edition from AMD?

[tEh koRnDog]

I am..

[tEh koRnDog]

I would love the i7...looks kick ass....

But dont have that kinda cash....just looking to build something with the most power and speed for cheapest I can do..

[pl8er]

ya wouldnt be bad at all still using ddr2 so you would be able to load up on ram on the cheap.

I believe all the black editions are unlocked so easy to overclock too.

[tEh koRnDog]

Thats what I was reading on reviews...people OC over 3.0

[tEh koRnDog]

I just gotta find a cheap copy of Vista naow...

[darthvibrator]

i need to build a pc, this pos struggles with porn

[tEh koRnDog]

lulz

[pl8er]

Thats what I was reading on reviews...people OC over 3.0

Although there is nothing wrong with OC'ing a proc it does reduce the life of the product.

Be careful to properly cool (just because it is stable does not mean it is running as efficiently as it could). And to stabilize the board with proper voltage, RAM that can handle the increase, etc. In otherwords, I wouldn't OC unless you really need more power.

Judging by what your requirements are, I might consider a slower older design. What is your current setup?

[pl8er]

I just gotta find a cheap copy of Vista naow...

Seriously? Why not use WinXP until Win7 comes out?

[tEh koRnDog]

Seriously? Why not use WinXP until Win7 comes out?


No idea what it is....no experience with it...lulz


Can you use programs you would use in windows? Im not sure of compatibility..

[pl8er]

Windows XP is the current fastest OS, Windows 7 is the new operating system coming out in about another 6-12 months.

[tEh koRnDog]

As far as my current setup, I have no computer....just sold the laptop.

[tEh koRnDog]

Windows XP is the current fastest OS, Windows 7 is the new operating system coming out in about another 6-12 months.

Ive been reading about 7....I downloaded the beta but never gotten around to using it..

[pl8er]

If you mainly are web surfing and word processing with just a bit of video editing...I see no use in spending extra on a fast system.

[pl8er]

My opinion of Win7 is it is all the parts that they didn't get to before launching vista.

I've been using it for a few months. Very VERY fast, stable, quick to install.

[darthvibrator]

My opinion of Win7 is it is all the parts that they didn't get to before launching vista.

I've been using it for a few months. Very VERY fast, stable, quick to install.

faster than xp and uses less resources?

fyi: im working with a 20gb harddrive that is slower than shit, because my "seagate barracuda 120gb" took a shit and i lost everything. should i just stick with xp?

:endhijack:

[pl8er]

faster than xp and uses less resources?

fyi: im working with a 20gb harddrive that is slower than shit, because my "seagate barracuda 120gb" took a shit and i lost everything. should i just stick with xp?

:endhijack:

In some cases yes, Win 7 is faster than win xp. Not everything, but great results for a beta.

Now it does require more resources than xp, but only a bit more than XP on my current rig.

Yes, stick with XP for now. Let win7 get released. That is my opinion at least.

[tEh koRnDog]

Well thats how ive been thinking...I just wanted something a little more powerful than what I had...something that deals with multi tasking better..

[tEh koRnDog]

faster than xp and uses less resources?

fyi: im working with a 20gb harddrive that is slower than shit, because my "seagate barracuda 120gb" took a shit and i lost everything. should i just stick with xp?

:endhijack:

:nohijack:

Its helping decide what route to go...

[pl8er]

korndog, I would look at an older system for the time being. It does not sound like you need something nearly as fast as your looking for.

[pl8er]

How much do you want to spend total?

[tEh koRnDog]

Im trying to decide that at the moment.

Been browsing on Newegg...putting things together, looking at the prices..

[tEh koRnDog]

Trying to get something powerful for the use of Autodesk for work and school...That shit slows down...

[tEh koRnDog]

Ive been around 375-400 with putting things together on newegg...

[pl8er]

You plan on using Autodesk? Well this changes your requirements a good amount ;) autodesk > internet, word processing, video editing.

[tEh koRnDog]

Yea ....Use it all the time.

Shouldve mentioned that lul

[mtlhead]

Intel's new Nehalem chips = win

[pl8er]

Intel's new Nehalem chips = win

Very new, VERY fast...going to be VERY expensive for awhile

Tick - tock if you get it, you got it ;)

[pl8er]

Yea ....Use it all the time.

Shouldve mentioned that lul

Get a good graphics card, Lot o ram....cpu will be important, but I think graphics and ram more so in this environment.

[dragnix]

should i run vista or xp for my car computer. Seems like vista is not ideal for an in car setup.

[pl8er]

should i run vista or xp for my car computer. Seems like vista is not ideal for an in car setup.

I would not run either to be honest. For a car setup I would use a flavor of linux that has been chopped down as much as possible.

If you do want to stay Windows, get a "lite" version of XP.

[pl8er]

https://www.timekiller.org/carpc/software.php

This may be of help. Gentoo is what they are using here. If you are not really wanting to put in time to load the O/S and get the drivers running, go with a WinXP lite (it kills off most of the bloat). The above link would give you the ability to add a better interface as your front screen though.

[Spider Monkey]

There is nothing that you can get from AMD that is worth a damn that you can't get from Intel cheaper or faster.

[pl8er]

There is nothing that you can get from AMD that is worth a damn that you can't get from Intel cheaper or faster.

For commercial use, yes. But in the server realm, not really true. AMD still has a pretty great enterprise offering.

[Spider Monkey]

For commercial use, yes. But in the server realm, not really true. AMD still has a pretty great enterprise offering.

No one lives in the server realm except you neardy IT guys that only know how to say "reboot the computer" when shit gets wack. :bootyshake:

[pl8er]

No one lives in the server realm except you neardy IT guys that only know how to say "reboot the computer" when shit gets wack. :bootyshake:

Laugh true true. Although I am not actually in I.T. and I do have an Opteron running one of my rigs at home.

I do hate when they take the easy way out and say reboot or format, i mean they go to school to solve this shit :P

Course schedule for Computer Information systems:

Day 1 Intro to computers
Day 2 The power button and you
Day 3 Advanced IT support (formatting using the recovery disk)
Day 4 Catchy IT jargon to impress your friends
Day 5 Graduation

[Spider Monkey]

Laugh true true. Although I am not actually in I.T. and I do have an Opteron running one of my rigs at home.

I do hate when they take the easy way out and say reboot or format, i mean they go to school to solve this shit :P

Course schedule for Computer Information systems:

Day 1 Intro to computers
Day 2 The power button and you
Day 3 Advanced IT support (formatting using the recovery disk)
Day 4 Catchy IT jargon to impress your friends
Day 5 Graduation

Lollers! Future Help Desk Extrodinare.

[01 S 10]

I've always had good luck with Intel, i think thats all ive ever had.

but from what ive heard, AMD runs games better, but runs a little hotter...??

Intel runs smoother and cooler in temperature, but isnt as powerful as AMD for gaming..??

i dunno tho for sure

[IDSkot]

Hrm....well lets go like this

AMD if you want a lower price overall (although price to performance is lower) but you could build for far less.

Intel will have better technology, they are using a smaller nm technology which means cooler temps and smaller dies.

Overall, at this current time, Intel dominates price-to-performance. You will get more speed for the dollar with an Intel chip.

Quality, they are about identical.

This.

[01 S 10]

I have a Core 2 Duo and it works great, 1.5gb ram in my XP home, and its pretty fast for that amount of ram

[IDSkot]

I have a Core 2 Duo and it works great, 1.5gb ram in my XP home, and its pretty fast for that amount of ram

I have an E8200 (C2D 2.66GHz), 2GB of DDR2, a GeForce 9800 GTX (Overclocked core to 73-something MHz), and I can run any game at full graphics, no problem. I run Crysis at ~50 FPS, Mirror's Edge was the same. Assassin's Creed I play at full graphics, and I alt+tab all day. Takes literally 1 second to load back up 100% with zero lag.

I spent less than $500 to rebuild this PC. The Videocard came stock O/C'd. I haven't touched the BIOS other than that. Running Windows XP Pro SP3, btw.

I upgraded from a single core AMD (I can't remember which) Over-clocked to like 3.2GHz with stock heatsink, ambient around 40C.

This rig's processor runs 31-34C depending on how cool my house is. Under full load it gets to 34-36C after multiple hours. My GPU runs 50C ambient, 51C under full load for multiple hours.

It's stable as fuck, too. My AMD crashed all the time.

[01 S 10]

I have an E8200 (C2D 2.66GHz), 2GB of DDR2, a GeForce 9800 GTX (Overclocked core to 73-something MHz), and I can run any game at full graphics, no problem. I run Crysis at ~50 FPS, Mirror's Edge was the same. Assassin's Creed I play at full graphics, and I alt+tab all day. Takes literally 1 second to load back up 100% with zero lag.

I spent less than $500 to rebuild this PC. The Videocard came stock O/C'd. I haven't touched the BIOS other than that. Running Windows XP Pro SP3, btw.

I upgraded from a single core AMD (I can't remember which) Over-clocked to like 3.2GHz with stock heatsink, ambient around 40C.

This rig's processor runs 31-34C depending on how cool my house is. Under full load it gets to 34-36C after multiple hours. My GPU runs 50C ambient, 51C under full load for multiple hours.

It's stable as fuck, too. My AMD crashed all the time.

dam, i need one custom built. i just have a laptop right now.

AMD sux big time from what ive heard

[IamDeMan]

dam, i need one custom built. i just have a laptop right now.

AMD sux big time from what ive heard

The uptime on my 2x dual core opteron server says otherwise.

[IamDeMan]

Talk to MOT, or me.

pfffft

[pl8er]

The uptime on my 2x dual core opteron server says otherwise.

This!

Although an Opteron is not what most of these guys would be running.

I do agree that AMD is not bad at all. They don't necessarily run games faster as above mentioned (as true when the northbridge was connected to the chip itself) as Intel has really dominated for a few years. Head to head, using similar specs, Intel will win. Although not by much and AMD still has its areas in which is is far better.

Like I said before though, enterprise, I would still personally look at AMD first.

[ma5terta]

AMD used to be the shit like 8 years ago but intel really caught up and even surpass AMD these days. I have an Intel Quadcore for cheap and its all i ever need really.

[pl8er]

AMD used to be the shit like 8 years ago but intel really caught up and even surpass AMD these days. I have an Intel Quadcore for cheap and its all i ever need really.

Aye, Q6600 will blast through pretty much anything you need done.

[Hairyballzonya]

I like AMD, but thats just because I cant afford an Intel.

[adio25]

Intel > AMD in pretty much every category.