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IamDeMan
04-07-2009, 11:40 AM
More specifically in school. If you get a grade on a paper that you know is better than you should have, do you point it out to the professor? Say you were running low on time to do a full review and edit process on an article review, yet you knew you had an A paper, but it wasn't 100%, so you turn it in because it is good enough and you are willing to accept the consequence of any points off. Yet it comes back with 100% and all points. Do you mention that you were damn sure it would have had points deducted and explain why you feel this way?

If reversed, wouldn't you point out and try to prove you are right when they say wrong? So why not in this position?

hoss
04-07-2009, 11:46 AM
Nope, in the circumstance you listed, grading can be a subjective issue. You are pretty much always your worst critic, and perhaps the grader thought that the paper was worthy of the maximum points possible. I would just take it as they liked it better than I thought it was, and leave it at that.

willyg4444
04-07-2009, 11:50 AM
I bring it up if it's a cut and dry thing... I think mostly it has to do with when I was in second grade and I admitted to not doing my math problems when called on, when the person that was called on before me said he did them, but clearly did not. Anyway, what happened was I received an "honesty pass" for my honesty from my teacher! I was allowed one free homework pass lol. So ever since then I admit if something is wrong in my favor or not. And I think all of the times it has happened, the professor/teacher has said it was his/her mistake so the grade would not be changed (if it was higher than was supposed to be.)

IamDeMan
04-07-2009, 11:50 AM
Nope, in the circumstance you listed, grading can be a subjective issue. You are pretty much always your worst critic, and perhaps the grader thought that the paper was worthy of the maximum points possible. I would just take it as they liked it better than I thought it was, and leave it at that.

I think the professor is just lazy and wet behind the ears though, but I suppose you could be right.

hoss
04-07-2009, 12:22 PM
If he/she is lazy and/or still fresh to the teaching game, then it is their learning curve. Lazy, I wouldnt correct at all, that is their own fault. If they are a newb, I still wouldnt, might bite you in the ass later if they take offense to your seemingly kind gesture.

I think I would probably only point it out if it was something blatantly obvious, or if I stood nothing to gain or lose by pointing out the error. That might sound greedy or immoral, but hey, you are paying the teachers salary, if they make a mistake that works in your favor that is them not withholding their end of a contracted deal.

Spider Monkey
04-07-2009, 12:23 PM
Stop being such a bitch. You were owed those points. Take them, STFU, & GTFO.

Captain Ahab
04-07-2009, 12:30 PM
no way i'd argue.

My gpa is important to me.

IamDeMan
04-07-2009, 12:32 PM
If he/she is lazy and/or still fresh to the teaching game, then it is their learning curve. Lazy, I wouldnt correct at all, that is their own fault. If they are a newb, I still wouldnt, might bite you in the ass later if they take offense to your seemingly kind gesture.

I think I would probably only point it out if it was something blatantly obvious, or if I stood nothing to gain or lose by pointing out the error. That might sound greedy or immoral, but hey, you are paying the teachers salary, if they make a mistake that works in your favor that is them not withholding their end of a contracted deal.
Now see this is where I see that point differently. I am paying for an EDUCATION not good grades. It does not help me to be lenient. It will make me complacent. In fact I would take to stringent over leniency in the interest of learning. If I wanted to buy grades, I would have chosen an online school like University of Phoenix. Of course I should want to learn and not need to worry about the stringency or leniency of a teacher as motivation, but to be honest with myself, it helps.

I chose not to say anything, but wanted to. I chose not to, because too many people were waiting after class and I rationalized it by being owed one from this teacher as it is.

IamDeMan
04-07-2009, 12:33 PM
Stop being such a bitch. You were owed those points. Take them, STFU, & GTFO.

I have already accepted your argument to this and pretty much agreed. I am still curious as to everyone else's thoughts and what most would do.

IamDeMan
04-07-2009, 12:33 PM
no way i'd argue.

My gpa is important to me.

Mine is extremely important to me too, but so is honesty to myself.

hoss
04-07-2009, 12:35 PM
Now see this is where I see that point differently. I am paying for an EDUCATION not good grades. It does not help me to be lenient. It will make me complacent. In fact I would take to stringent over leniency in the interest of learning. If I wanted to buy grades, I would have chosen an online school like University of Phoenix. Of course I should want to learn and not need to worry about the stringency or leniency of a teacher as motivation, but to be honest with myself, it helps.

I chose not to say anything, but wanted to. I chose not to, because too many people were waiting after class and I rationalized it by being owed one from this teacher as it is.

I didnt mean to say that you were paying for grades... But you are in fact paying for the education, and if you caught the teachers mistake on your own, then you are obviously getting what you paid for and should have no need to point out the teachers flaw.

Spider Monkey
04-07-2009, 12:36 PM
I have already accepted your argument to this and pretty much agreed. I am still curious as to everyone else's thoughts and what most would do.

Oh, I will edit the thread title so I don't make that mistake again.

Roadtrippin'
04-07-2009, 12:37 PM
Yes, you should fess up. Also, if you see a man who you genuinely feel is better suited to be with your wife you should play matchmaker and make certain that she leaves you.

IamDeMan
04-07-2009, 12:40 PM
I didnt mean to say that you were paying for grades... But you are in fact paying for the education, and if you caught the teachers mistake on your own, then you are obviously getting what you paid for and should have no need to point out the teachers flaw.Now that is a good point.

Oh, I will edit the thread title so I don't make that mistake again.LAWL, I noticed before reading this poast. Good work.

Yes, you should fess up. Also, if you see a man who you genuinely is better suited to be with your wife you should play matchmaker and make certain that she leaves you.

I have contemplated giving her your number, but then I couldn't figure out if your wife deserved you better than my wife would. Outside of that, I wouldn't consider anyone else. Can you blame that logic?

Now take your red herring elsewhere you shrewd bastard.

Roadtrippin'
04-07-2009, 12:41 PM
:uhoh:

IamDeMan
04-07-2009, 12:47 PM
:uhoh:

Don't worry, it is still a dilemma I have to figure out. Then it may become your problem to figure out.

Volpone
04-07-2009, 01:35 PM
I point out every error, no matter who made it. In the situation you posed, I'm not sure that there is a way you can definitively say that there was an error made. I don't discuss my marks with a teacher unless there is clearly something wrong which I can easily argue without risk of creating a personal conflict.

Spider Monkey
04-07-2009, 01:38 PM
I point out every error, no matter who made it. In the situation you posed, I'm not sure that there is a way you can definitively say that there was an error made. I don't discuss my marks with a teacher unless there is clearly something wrong which I can easily argue without risk of creating a personal conflict.

He did that last time and got owned.

shaneb
04-07-2009, 01:40 PM
I don't think so, MAYBE if it was just ridiculous. But by the scenario you described, I don't think so. I have come across some VERY subjective professors.

IamDeMan
04-07-2009, 01:42 PM
I point out every error, no matter who made it. In the situation you posed, I'm not sure that there is a way you can definitively say that there was an error made. I don't discuss my marks with a teacher unless there is clearly something wrong which I can easily argue without risk of creating a personal conflict.

Well I could clearly site mistakes I made in format and writing. Yet I was given max points. Part of the grade is based on following the format and all papers are graded to some extent on writing skill. So yes, I feel I could have shown my point.

However, as monkey pointed out, I had a great argument last time and thought I thoroughly argued why my answer was correct in addition to the one she was looking for and was basically told in more or less words that it wasn't the correct response because she said so. So more than likely pointing out that the teacher should have been more stringent on this paper wouldn't have gotten anymore recognition than the last issue.

Spider Monkey
04-07-2009, 01:45 PM
However, as monkey pointed out, I had a great argument last time and thought I thoroughly argued why my answer was correct in addition to the one she was looking for and was basically told in more or less words that it wasn't the correct response because she said so.



The ultimate troll.


Why isn't it a Jeep? Because I said so.

IamDeMan
04-07-2009, 01:45 PM
The ultimate troll.


Why isn't it a Jeep? Because I said so.

Your theory is evolving, I must say.

Volpone
04-07-2009, 01:50 PM
Yes, well that is basically my point at this level of education. All the rubrics in the world don't seem to make much of a difference. I may get an 85 instead of a 100 because the teacher doesn't give 100's, or is grading on a curve. They insert just enough subjectivity that it is hard to make an argument one way or the other without making the teacher think you're calling them a moron (which they may very well be).

IamDeMan
04-07-2009, 01:56 PM
Yes, well that is basically my point at this level of education. All the rubrics in the world don't seem to make much of a difference. I may get an 85 instead of a 100 because the teacher doesn't give 100's, or is grading on a curve. They insert just enough subjectivity that it is hard to make an argument one way or the other without making the teacher think you're calling them a moron (which they may very well be).

In that circumstance I can understand, but reverse that now and it doesn't apply as well. I thought I deserved a low to mid 90s but got 100. I can site mistakes, so "something" should have been picked off. In the end thought, it wasn't worth it. I did give it thought though.

IamDeMan
04-07-2009, 09:30 PM
Man, people really don't give shit. So much so that they don't even do the poll let alone respond. I fail.

Spider Monkey
04-08-2009, 11:59 AM
Man, people really don't give shit. So much so that they don't even do the poll let alone respond. I fail.

Well WTF dio you expect when you exclude me from the discussion?

IamDeMan
04-08-2009, 03:41 PM
Well WTF dio you expect when you exclude me from the discussion?

Yes, but I like to keep mine and your discussion private. I don't think the forum could handle our conversation.

Spider Monkey
04-08-2009, 03:42 PM
Yes, but I like to keep mine and your discussion private. I don't think the forum could handle our conversation.

I don't think the internets could handle them.

IamDeMan
04-08-2009, 03:43 PM
I don't think the internets could handle them.

Probably explains why MSn and trillian puke from time to time.

Spider Monkey
04-08-2009, 03:48 PM
Probably explains why MSn and trillian puke from time to time.

lel

bluecar
04-09-2009, 02:07 AM
Now see this is where I see that point differently. I am paying for an EDUCATION not good grades. It does not help me to be lenient. It will make me complacent. In fact I would take to stringent over leniency in the interest of learning. If I wanted to buy grades, I would have chosen an online school like University of Phoenix. Of course I should want to learn and not need to worry about the stringency or leniency of a teacher as motivation, but to be honest with myself, it helps.

I chose not to say anything, but wanted to. I chose not to, because too many people were waiting after class and I rationalized it by being owed one from this teacher as it is.


I have a friend getting a law degree from Temple, I know people who go to Princeton. All students buy grades. It it is how much you are willing to pay.

IamDeMan
04-09-2009, 06:24 AM
I have a friend getting a law degree from Temple, I know people who go to Princeton. All students buy grades. It it is how much you are willing to pay.

No. I am not buying grades, I am paying for an education. The Princeton fellow is paying for prestige and for more meaning behind the grades he earns.

UCP
04-09-2009, 07:28 AM
I did not read the context, my answer should read.

NO COMMENT.