Cut Diets...healthy individuals get ITT: Junior, Ahab, Tappy, that bald guy from The Transporter etc.

[synyster1337]

I'm starting a cut. I've got my workout plan down, and I'm taking Niacin in the mornings, and protein immediately after every workout. When I have to resort to fast food, it's subway only, and I limit it to 6 inch with no chips or drink. I think for someone my size (6'2", 275 lbs.), I should be taking in ~1700-1800 calories a day.

What do you guys do for diets when your on a cut schedule? I'm really trying to get nice and cut before I go to the beach so I am appealing to sexy and tan shallow bitches in the Dominican Republic when we go after finals. In fitness class this morning, we measured body fat % and BMI, and I scored 32.8% and 36, respectively. I'm working on it. Any helpful tips would be much appreciated.

[pl8er]

I shouldn't help since I fall into the "etc" category. However, 1700 isn't close to enough calories for a clean cut.

I'm 5'10" 225 and when I did my cut last spring, I was taking in around 3700 calories per day. Lost something like 30 lbs

[pl8er]

The key to losing weight falls into your carb to protein ratio. Ahab does it a bit differently, and it does work, but I want to say at his best cut, he followed more to the ratios

[tapout]

At your size, and without asking all the right questions that really should be asked to give you a proper response, I'd say you should take in 4k a day and burn 7k a day.

[synyster1337]

I shouldn't help since I fall into the "etc" category. However, 1700 isn't close to enough calories for a clean cut.

I'm 5'10" 225 and when I did my cut last spring, I was taking in around 3700 calories per day. Lost something like 30 lbs

I'm sorry BB. I forgot that you were also a fit individual. Thread title can be changed if ya want.

[pl8er]

Na, I'll live. Just crank it in the morning thinking about how much I don't matter and how I'm ugly and need to change and improve! I need to be thought of on the list...work harder you fucking pussy....you're nothing, they don't think of you!

Yeah, thats going to make for a good workout!!

[bluecar]

I do not think that is enough calories. I think your muscles eat itself due to lack of calories.

I aim for 3000 just to maintain, but I end up eating trash (cookies, cakes, beer) just to get there. Finding 3000 good calories is very very hard.

[junior]

PM me if you want to, just be prepared for a shit load of info, cause it ain't a simple fukin answer like a lot of people seem to think it is!!!

[pl8er]

Rice, chicken, tuna, corn will all become your best friends

[pl8er]

PM me if you want to, just be prepared for a shit load of info, cause it ain't a simple fukin answer like a lot of people seem to think it is!!!

werd...when junior said i needed to call him I was like "ehhhhhh" but after the 1.5 hour phone call I was like "WOOOAH"

[Porch Monkey]

werd...when junior said i needed to call him I was like "ehhhhhh" but after the 1.5 hour phone call I was like "WOOOAH"
well wut do ya think aboot it now?

:whiteflag:

[pl8er]

much better

[gymfreak101]

I lost 220lbs without counting calories. I would eat as much as I wanted of stuff like chicken breast, old fashioned oatmeal, eggwhites, sweet potatoes and such. I did hour of lifting weights a day and minimum of 60 minutes of either walking on incline or running at about 6.5 mph for an hour on the treadmill. I could tell my metabolism benefited from eating so much because my pits would start to sweat after eating.

[gymfreak101]

I never wanted the headache of counting calories either. Weighing food and such.

[pl8er]

you lost how much? for some reason I'm thinking 220 is incorrect

[Porch Monkey]

you lost how much? for some reason I'm thinking 220 is incorrect
he used to be BIG! think SBLAZER big

[gymfreak101]

you lost how much? for some reason I'm thinking 220 is incorrect

Not incorrect my senior year in highschool I weighed 440lbs. I lost 220lbs in a year. I weigh 267lbs now but lifted alot of heavy weight so my normal weight is around 240lbs or so. I used to wear a 5x shirt and 52x32 pants lol.

[pl8er]

no shit? Congrats if that is the case.

Weird...just saw the preview for the mechanic and that is the name I used on silentmurder weeeeird

[synyster1337]

PM me if you want to, just be prepared for a shit load of info, cause it ain't a simple fukin answer like a lot of people seem to think it is!!!

Send me all the info you want baby! I'm the kind of person that reads for hours and hours about something when I get srs about it.

[bluecar]

Not incorrect my senior year in highschool I weighed 440lbs. I lost 220lbs in a year. I weigh 267lbs now but lifted alot of heavy weight so my normal weight is around 240lbs or so. I used to wear a 5x shirt and 52x32 pants lol.

How in the hell were you in the service at that size?

[junior]

Not incorrect my senior year in highschool I weighed 440lbs. I lost 220lbs in a year. I weigh 267lbs now but lifted alot of heavy weight so my normal weight is around 240lbs or so. I used to wear a 5x shirt and 52x32 pants lol.

Hats off to you! But you need to understand, at that weight(440lbs.), anything is going to be benificial for you. Highly obese clients are a completely different clientele base than someone looking to drop 20, 30, 40lbs.

[gymfreak101]

How in the hell were you in the service at that size?

did not join the service until my junior year in college. I was 230lbs when I joined always had to make it on bodyfat.

[junior]

Send me all the info you want baby! I'm the kind of person that reads for hours and hours about something when I get srs about it.

Lulz.... I won't be "sending" you a lot of info, but I'll "tell" you a lot of info. I train people on this forum for free as a way to contribute, yes, but I have others clients that I charge big dollars for that need my assistance as well. I don't have a whole lot of time to sit in front of a computer to type for hours on end. But I am more than willing to help you out as much as you need.

[synyster1337]

Lulz.... I won't be "sending" you a lot of info, but I'll "tell" you a lot of info. I train people on this forum for free as a way to contribute, yes, but I have others clients that I charge big dollars for that need my assistance as well. I don't have a whole lot of time to sit in front of a computer to type for hours on end. But I am more than willing to help you out as much as you need.

I love you. My doctor told me that I should be at 190 or so, so that's what I'm shooting at. However, I really just want to drop enough weight to look nice and cut.

[gymfreak101]

Hats off to you! But you need to understand, at that weight(440lbs.), anything is going to be benificial for you. Highly obese clients are a completely different clientele base than someone looking to drop 20, 30, 40lbs.

I am not familiar with your background but what is your experience with weight loss besides what I have read on here? From alot of your post your dieting methods seem to revolve around a bodybuilding diet.

[atoz350]

did not join the service until my junior year in college. I was 230lbs when I joined always had to make it on bodyfat.

You were right at the cut-off bro.

[gymfreak101]

You were right at the cut-off bro.

My cutoff was 194lbs but less than 21% bodyfat.

[junior]

I love you. My doctor told me that I should be at 190 or so, so that's what I'm shooting at. However, I really just want to drop enough weight to look nice and cut.

Don't go by what your doctor is saying then, because that would put you at 185lbs. of muscle and 5lbs. of body fat if all the numbers you stated are true. Not very reasonable. By Doctor's standards, at my height I'm suppose to be 130lbs., making me 75lbs. overweight, yet I'm under 15% BF at all times.

[junior]

I am not familiar with your background but what is your experience with weight loss besides what I have read on here? From alot of your post your dieting methods seem to revolve around a bodybuilding diet.

I've been a personal trainer and competative body builder for 15 years, managed gym's for 7, owned a supplement shop and a few fitness clothing lines, and currently sell commercial gym equipment.

Yes I do have a "body building" style to my training, but I don't train my clients like body builders. I have a more "caveman" style of training. I know that sounds stupid, but it basically means just eat fresh and natural foods, and stay away from preseratives and processed foods. I still let people eat pork, beef, fruits, dairy, etc. that I wouldn't let someone getting ready for a show. My training system is all about building up ones metabolism naturally so you burn calories 24/7. By doing that, you can enjoy life and all the treats that it has to offer(in moderation, of course.)

[gymfreak101]

I've been a personal trainer and competative body builder for 15 years, managed gym's for 7, owned a supplement shop and a few fitness clothing lines, and currently sell commercial gym equipment.

Yes I do have a "body building" style to my training, but I don't train my clients like body builders. I have a more "caveman" style of training. I know that sounds stupid, but it basically means just eat fresh and natural foods, and stay away from preseratives and processed foods. I still let people eat pork, beef, fruits, dairy, etc. that I wouldn't let someone getting ready for a show. My training system is all about building up ones metabolism naturally so you burn calories 24/7. By doing that, you can enjoy life and all the treats that it has to offer(in moderation, of course.)

Cool I believe the metabolism aspect is the most important as well.

[Captain Ahab]

Here is what works for me.....I went from 204 to a lean 176 two springs/summers ago doing the following...

Around 2300-2600 calories a day. I'd eat more on days I did cardio. At least 200g protein a day. For cardio I'd do a lot of HIIT and 45 minute walks @ 4mph. For the HIIT I would walk 2 minutes, sprint a minute or 1.5 minutes, walk another minute, and repeat so forth until about 18-20 minutes had lapsed. I liked it b/c you could burn about the same amount of calories in half the time.

Like pl8 said, I did my diet a bit different. It just worked well for me and was easy to keep up with. A lot of times my grams of protein would be around 10% of my total calories for the day. And I would have a minimum of 5 meals a day with a few protein shakes mixed in. I just avoided fatty foods.

As for my cutting foods:

Breakfast: whole eggs, egg whites, toast, oats, grits---- A LOT OF OMELETS! :woot:

Lunch: lots of 1/4lb turkey sandwiches (easiest to buy prepackaged meat where 4 slices= 1/4 lb..Wal-Mart brand is like that). Wheat bread and 2% cheese.. I ate a cup of low calorie yogurt a lot along with a sandwich.

Dinner and other items: chicken breast, tuna, venison, tilapia, catfish, lots of sweet potatoes and a ton of brown rice, mixed veggies, protein shakes, protein bars, skim milk, instant mashed potatoes, sticks of string cheese...

lots of cottage cheese and casein protein before bed time!!

AS you can see, one common denominator in everything is low fat. That is what worked for me though and everyone is different.

I tried the low carb and no carb shit a few times and FUCK THAT! I would feel like shit throughout the day, be uber tired, etc, etc.






Basically: bust your ass on the weights, do cardio, keep your diet low in fat.

[synyster1337]

Basically: bust your ass on the weights, do cardio, keep your diet low in fat.

Gotcha. I put my chosen muscle group to work, usually upper body on MWF and lower body on TR. I push the muscles that I'm working to failure every time I work out. It seems to be working well for me because my pants seem to be a little smaller. Also, my arm is getting pretty beefy. And my diet is low fat for the most part. I have switched from bread to tortilla wraps instead of sandwiches, and I completely cut fast food out as well as dark and clear sodas. I'm taking protein supplements immediately after working out, and trying to focus most of my diet on protein. Lots of meat. I really don't have means to check my progress right now, but I need to really get on a scale.

[TXC]

Good luck, bro.

[soraiden]

PM me if you want to, just be prepared for a shit load of info, cause it ain't a simple fukin answer like a lot of people seem to think it is!!!

Totally this.

I've been a personal trainer and competative body builder for 15 years, managed gym's for 7, owned a supplement shop and a few fitness clothing lines, and currently sell commercial gym equipment.

Yes I do have a "body building" style to my training, but I don't train my clients like body builders. I have a more "caveman" style of training. I know that sounds stupid, but it basically means just eat fresh and natural foods, and stay away from preseratives and processed foods. I still let people eat pork, beef, fruits, dairy, etc. that I wouldn't let someone getting ready for a show. My training system is all about building up ones metabolism naturally so you burn calories 24/7. By doing that, you can enjoy life and all the treats that it has to offer(in moderation, of course.)

Thanks to you, I lost 43 pounds in 2010. :wiggle:

[junior]

Totally this.



Thanks to you, I lost 43 pounds in 2010. :wiggle:



BTW, congrats of the success! Good to hear.

[adio]

i think its amaing that as soon as junior makes a return here, the fitness section rises from the dead, hahahhahahahhaha and lolsz!

[Captain Ahab]

Gotcha. I put my chosen muscle group to work, usually upper body on MWF and lower body on TR.
I'd back off of that some. Sounds like you may be overworking your muscles. They need rest too.

Maybe upper body on Monday, Lower on Tuesday....Then Upper on Thursday, Lower on Friday..

I personally do the best with something like this.

Monday- Chest
Tuesday-Back
Wednesday-Legs
Thursday- Shoulders/Traps/Abs
Friday-arms

i think its amaing that as soon as junior makes a return here, the fitness section rises from the dead, hahahhahahahhaha and lolsz!

Don't forget the New Years..Lots of resolutions...And lots of people realized how fat they'd gotten. lawl

[junior]

Sorry Tapout, didn't know that was a no-no. Just wanted to know who it was??? My mind was blanking.

[junior]

i think its amaing that as soon as junior makes a return here, the fitness section rises from the dead, hahahhahahahhaha and lolsz!

Didn't you know that everyone that posts in this section is an AE of mine???

[tapout]

I'd back off of that some. Sounds like you may be overworking your muscles. They need rest too.

Maybe upper body on Monday, Lower on Tuesday....Then Upper on Thursday, Lower on Friday..

I personally do the best with something like this.

Monday- Chest
Tuesday-Back
Wednesday-Legs
Thursday- Shoulders/Traps/Abs
Friday-arms



Don't forget the New Years..Lots of resolutions...And lots of people realized how fat they'd gotten. lawl

Legs 24 hours after back? Not me bro.

[tapout]

Sorry Tapout, didn't know that was a no-no. Just wanted to know who it was??? My mind was blanking.

NP, and you were right.

[adio]

Didn't you know that everyone that posts in this section is an AE of mine???

course i did:darkie:

[junior]

NP, and you were right.

Thanx. And now my blank is gone.

[Captain Ahab]

Legs 24 hours after back? Not me bro.

Depends on if I am doing DLs or not.

[synyster1337]

So, I mean, if I'm trying to lose weight, should I drop the weight, and then bulk up? After pouring over the bodybuilding forums, it seems that's the way to go.

[mackin]

So, I mean, if I'm trying to lose weight, should I drop the weight, and then bulk up? After pouring over the bodybuilding forums, it seems that's the way to go.

I would. Especially if you are up the the 30% BF range.

[tapout]

This is perfect for you....

http://www.crunktimes.com/ct/showthread.php?t=12605

[synyster1337]

This is perfect for you....

http://www.crunktimes.com/ct/showthread.php?t=12605

That sounds like a really good idea, but not only am I broke, but it would also be hard to prove that said ratios are legitimate.

.

[tapout]

You have 10 days to come up with $10.

Its not about ratios. Its about visual transformation.

[soraiden]

Our local homeless guy panhandles more than that in a day.