View Full Version : How A Differential Works
Tiger Bass
03-27-2011, 10:50 PM
YouTube - How Differential Gear works must see 100%
Bender
03-27-2011, 11:10 PM
That's all well and good until one wheel starts slipping then you are fucked. Find a video that explains how a limited slip diff works and then you might interest me
J31Bro
03-27-2011, 11:12 PM
Posi
Bender
03-27-2011, 11:33 PM
Posi
I know what it is called.
kurnlesbiskuits
03-27-2011, 11:40 PM
Neat
bluecar
03-27-2011, 11:50 PM
I thought "posi" is just a chevy-branding of limited slip?
Bender
03-27-2011, 11:57 PM
I thought "posi" is just a chevy-branding of limited slip?
same thing. Everyone calls them posi-track.
That's all well and good until one wheel starts slipping then you are fucked. Find a video that explains how a limited slip diff works and then you might interest me
Forget posi/limited slip.
Lift a tire - or even unload it by more than about 30-50% of the normal weight it carries, they are as USELESS as an open diff.
Detroit locker.
Oh and make mine a 35 spline for a 60. :)
G1ock
03-28-2011, 07:09 AM
Forget posi/limited slip.
Lift a tire - or even unload it by more than about 30-50% of the normal weight it carries, they are as USELESS as an open diff.
Detroit locker.
Oh and make mine a 35 spline for a 60. :)
4x4 3.73 Detroit locker crew checking in!
J31Bro
03-28-2011, 07:37 AM
I thought limited slip = one tire breaks loose & posi = both tires?
J31Bro
03-28-2011, 07:38 AM
Don't know the science of it, just know what does what kinda burnouts. :fyi:
ngsm13
03-28-2011, 11:23 AM
Fucking derp.
J31Bro
03-28-2011, 11:24 AM
Midwest son, I represent it. The derp comes natural.
jesus
03-28-2011, 12:36 PM
The video stops prematurely so I didn't learn jack dick.
4x4 3.73 Detroit locker crew checking in!
You do not have a Detroit locker.
I thought limited slip = one tire breaks loose & posi = both tires?
posi=limitedslip=traclock=blah blah
All some form of anti-slip device under different brand names.
They generally have a friction based clutch system in them which detects when one of the two tires on the axle overspeeds. When this occurs, the clutch engages in an attempt to apply power to the tire which has more traction.
In scenarios where traction really matters, these suck.
They also have gear based limited slips which have a series of conical gears. These only suck slightly less.
About the only place a limited slip really helps much more than an open diff is on a slick boat ramp where the two tires on an axle have similar traction.
Bender
03-28-2011, 03:48 PM
Forget posi/limited slip.
Lift a tire - or even unload it by more than about 30-50% of the normal weight it carries, they are as USELESS as an open diff.
Detroit locker.
Oh and make mine a 35 spline for a 60. :)
Take that on the road and tell me how long it lasts.
I thought limited slip = one tire breaks loose & posi = both tires?
same thing
Take that on the road and tell me how long it lasts.
Lasts? Are you talking about the diff? Or the tires?
Bender
03-28-2011, 08:49 PM
Lasts? Are you talking about the diff? Or the tires?
both. Take a locked diff on the road and neither will last long enough to warrant it. It will also be slower around the turns.
both. Take a locked diff on the road and neither will last long enough to warrant it. It will also be slower around the turns.
You are correct that tire wear will increase.
However you are incorrect otherwise.
:fyi:
SAD = actually owned vehicles with Detroit lockers and drove them daily. On and off road.
G1ock
03-28-2011, 09:23 PM
You are correct that tire wear will increase.
However you are incorrect otherwise.
:fyi:
SAD = actually owned vehicles with Detroit lockers and drove them daily. On and off road.
Glock= actually owns Case tractors and 8000 and 9000 series John Deere's. with 8 tires per tractor and tractor weights on them, I can get all the traction i want. :love the sound of that 9996:
G1ock
03-28-2011, 09:24 PM
I could pull 5 Dodge 3500's around in low range. :fyi:
brynm
03-28-2011, 09:32 PM
Glock= actually owns Case tractors and 8000 and 9000 series John Deere's. with 8 tires per tractor and tractor weights on them, I can get all the traction i want. :love the sound of that 9996:
You are not paying for them, your grandpa is still alive..... You do not own them.
G1ock
03-28-2011, 09:40 PM
You are not paying for them, your grandpa is still alive..... You do not own them.
Just tired of SAD looking down on us 1/2 ton owners bragging that his 3500 can pull, tow and get traction anywhere in the world. :)
Bender
03-28-2011, 09:49 PM
You are correct that tire wear will increase.
However you are incorrect otherwise.
:fyi:
SAD = actually owned vehicles with Detroit lockers and drove them daily. On and off road.
if you drive around with it locked it will definitely wear and not last long.
atoz350
03-28-2011, 11:25 PM
Yes, a posi is almost a fully welded diff. Both tires spin at the same rate. I have one custom made for my '96 Maxima.
An LSD is a different beast. It usually only does a 75%-25% split. Some good ones will do 60%-40%.
Yes, a posi is almost a fully welded diff. Both tires spin at the same rate. I have one custom made for my '96 Maxima.
An LSD is a different beast. It usually only does a 75%-25% split. Some good ones will do 60%-40%.
As stated before, posi is the same as LSD. A LSD will allow for a certain difference in movement between the two wheels before automatically locking. In other words, it allows a limited amount of wheel slip before it goes into a locked situation and powers both wheels.
if you drive around with it locked it will definitely wear and not last long.
Drive around with it "locked"? As if there is a selector? Its apparent you do not know what you are talking about.
I'll just respond with 'uncorrect', and be satisfied knowing how awesome I am.
Just tired of SAD looking down on us 1/2 ton owners bragging that his 3500 can pull, tow and get traction anywhere in the world. :)
I rarely, if ever, 'brag'.
You on the other hand, are quite full of poo at times.
G1ock
03-29-2011, 07:51 AM
I rarely, if ever, 'brag'.
You on the other hand, are quite full of poo at times.
Calm down young man. Your 3500 has been beat.
toasted1
03-29-2011, 08:00 AM
Learned something +1
Calm down young man. Your 3500 has been beat.
:troll:
slim8605
03-29-2011, 08:16 AM
:troll:
Iknowrite!? You're faaaar from young :hilarious:
evildave101
03-29-2011, 08:42 AM
Forget posi/limited slip.
Lift a tire - or even unload it by more than about 30-50% of the normal weight it carries, they are as USELESS as an open diff.
Detroit locker.
Oh and make mine a 35 spline for a 60. :)
You do not have a Detroit locker.
posi=limitedslip=traclock=blah blah
All some form of anti-slip device under different brand names.
They generally have a friction based clutch system in them which detects when one of the two tires on the axle overspeeds. When this occurs, the clutch engages in an attempt to apply power to the tire which has more traction.
In scenarios where traction really matters, these suck.
They also have gear based limited slips which have a series of conical gears. These only suck slightly less.
About the only place a limited slip really helps much more than an open diff is on a slick boat ramp where the two tires on an axle have similar traction.
You are correct that tire wear will increase.
However you are incorrect otherwise.
:fyi:
SAD = actually owned vehicles with Detroit lockers and drove them daily. On and off road.
Drive around with it "locked"? As if there is a selector? Its apparent you do not know what you are talking about.
I'll just respond with 'uncorrect', and be satisfied knowing how awesome I am.
^^this bro knows...
both. Take a locked diff on the road and neither will last long enough to warrant it. It will also be slower around the turns.
not if you know/understand how it works and how to drive with it...
Yes, a posi is almost a fully welded diff. Both tires spin at the same rate. I have one custom made for my '96 Maxima.
An LSD is a different beast. It usually only does a 75%-25% split. Some good ones will do 60%-40%.
:facepalm:
As stated before, posi is the same as LSD. A LSD will allow for a certain difference in movement between the two wheels before automatically locking. In other words, it allows a limited amount of wheel slip before it goes into a locked situation and powers both wheels.
dots...
Drive around with it "locked"? As if there is a selector? Its apparent you do not know what you are talking about.
I'll just respond with 'uncorrect', and be satisfied knowing how awesome I am.
'73 Pinzgauer:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/frostback/1973%20Pinzgauer%20710K/P1000156.jpg
Those yellow levers are for the front/rear differentials :)
evildave101
03-29-2011, 08:47 AM
there are selectable lockers, but the detroit is not one of them...
there are selectable lockers, but the detroit is not one of them...
Finally!! Someone who knows awesome cool stuff like me. :)
Spider Monkey
03-29-2011, 10:10 AM
Glock= actually owns Case tractors and 8000 and 9000 series John Deere's. with 8 tires per tractor and tractor weights on them, I can get all the traction i want. :love the sound of that 9996:
Okay, that does it. You don't even need to say sorry for the lies in the other thread. This is over the top enough.
slim8605
03-29-2011, 10:11 AM
Dat nga banned yall!
wishuponansg
03-29-2011, 10:19 AM
Don't know the science of it, just know what does what kinda burnouts. :fyi:
I saw 'My Cousin Vinny' too, bro.
atoz350
03-29-2011, 06:49 PM
As stated before, posi is the same as LSD. A LSD will allow for a certain difference in movement between the two wheels before automatically locking. In other words, it allows a limited amount of wheel slip before it goes into a locked situation and powers both wheels.
You'e right. I was actually looking at the differences between a 1-way, 1.5 way, and a 2-way. The one on the Maxima was a 2-way. It may have not been ideal for street use, but it gave a solid feel when decelerating.
Bender
03-29-2011, 07:16 PM
Drive around with it "locked"? As if there is a selector? Its apparent you do not know what you are talking about.
I'll just respond with 'uncorrect', and be satisfied knowing how awesome I am.
:troll:
G1ock
03-29-2011, 07:20 PM
Okay, that does it. You don't even need to say sorry for the lies in the other thread. This is over the top enough.
I'm sorry if i caused any confusion.
Bender
03-29-2011, 07:25 PM
Drive around with it "locked"? As if there is a selector? Its apparent you do not know what you are talking about.
I'll just respond with 'uncorrect', and be satisfied knowing how awesome I am.
I don't know what kind of ghetto ass piece of shit you use, but you can lock and unlock any aftermarket diff.
G1ock
03-29-2011, 07:28 PM
I don't know what kind of ghetto ass piece of shit you use, but you can lock and unlock any aftermarket diff.
He drives an '07 Dodge 3500. dk if it's 4x4 or not.
I don't know what kind of ghetto ass piece of shit you use, but you can lock and unlock any aftermarket diff.
You really don't know how a Detroit locker works do you. :shrug:
It's obvious you at least understand that there is such a thing as a selectable locking differential. But a Detroit is not one of them. Lol
G1ock
03-29-2011, 08:07 PM
You really don't know how a Detroit locker works do you. :shrug:
It's obvious you at least understand that there is such a thing as a selectable locking differential. But a Detroit is not one of them. Lol
Who cares?
slim8605
03-29-2011, 08:08 PM
You really don't know how a Detroit locker works do you. :shrug:
It's obvious you at least understand that there is such a thing as a selectable locking differential. But a Detroit is not one of them. Lol
Detroit is a city, silly. :keke:
Finally!! Someone who knows awesome cool stuff like me. :)
Meh, Europe makes more vehicles that interest me...:)
Detroit is a city, silly. :keke:
Oh yeah you're right. None of them actually works!
Meh, Europe makes more vehicles that interest me...:)
Unimogs?
G1ock
03-29-2011, 08:13 PM
Glock
You can get stuck without a Detroit locker. :fyi:
Bender
03-29-2011, 08:13 PM
You really don't know how a Detroit locker works do you. :shrug:
It's obvious you at least understand that there is such a thing as a selectable locking differential. But a Detroit is not one of them. Lol
It must be in the ghetto ass piece of shit category then. I only deal with high quality parts.
slim8605
03-29-2011, 08:13 PM
Oh yeah you're right. None of them actually works!
:hahaha:
It must be in the ghetto ass piece of shit category then. I only deal with high quality parts.
:troll:
Unimogs?
Love those double-cab diesel ones...fairly pricey though :(
Love those double-cab diesel ones...fairly pricey though :(
Buddy of mine has a 1969 404. Very nice. Driving it is weird how you're sitting just ahead of the front tires. Especially when making turns and climbing up and over obsticals.
G1ock
03-29-2011, 08:17 PM
Honestly, Who in their right mind would go through a wet pasture in a 3500 Dodge? or ANY truck?
Honestly, Who in their right mind would go through a wet pasture in a 3500 Dodge? or ANY truck?
Rock crawling is where its at. I've wheeled Socal, NM, TX, CO, UT, OK.
G1ock
03-29-2011, 08:19 PM
YouTube - 2009 F-150 with "Detroit Locker"
Pop Da Hatch
03-29-2011, 08:24 PM
Anything diesel makes me hard.
Bad video to show capabilities. Better demonstration if they cross some sort of deep ditch at a 45 degree angle - such that the weight unloads from alternating tires.
G1ock
03-29-2011, 08:26 PM
Bad video to show capabilities. Better demonstration if they cross some sort of deep ditch at a 45 degree angle - such that the weight unloads from alternating tires.
You said the F150 didn't have the Detroit locker? Ford builds better trucks than Dodge, that's all too it.
You said the F150 didn't have the Detroit locker? Ford builds better trucks than Dodge, that's all too it.
I say Ford doesn't offer one in an F150. Quit pussying around and prove me wrong.
G1ock
03-29-2011, 08:30 PM
I say Ford doesn't offer one in an F150. Quit pussying around and prove me wrong.
I only know what they put in the specs. I don't need a Detroit locker.
Pop Da Hatch
03-29-2011, 08:30 PM
the dodge vs. ford vs. chevy vs. GMC debate is beating a dead horse. Drive what you know and like mutha fuckers.
YouTube - 2009 F-150 with "Detroit Locker" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wphkjCEl49c)
That isn't a detroit locker bro.
G1ock
03-29-2011, 08:35 PM
I love my Fords. My Gpa has an '08 F250, GMC 2500 and just bought an '04 Chevy 1500 4x4 both are for work. I have to say, That fucking 5.3L in the 1500 has 30 mph punch the 5.4L in my F150 will never have.
the dodge vs. ford vs. chevy vs. GMC debate is beating a dead horse. Drive what you know and like mutha fuckers.
^ this
I bought a Cummins TD 6 cyl. It just happened to come wrapped in a Dodge.
G1ock
03-29-2011, 08:44 PM
This is my off-road king. remind me and i'll get a pic of all 4. Shamed to say it will outrun my truck.
http://i56.tinypic.com/2qv9wr4.jpg
evildave101
03-29-2011, 08:51 PM
I love my Fords. My Gpa has an '08 F250, GMC 2500 and just bought an '04 Chevy 1500 4x4 both are for work. I have to say, That fucking 5.3L in the 1500 has 30 mph punch the 5.4L in my F150 will never have.
i have a 92 1500 2wd with a 5.7 - burnouts for days...
HHRLisa
03-30-2011, 08:09 AM
This is my off-road king. remind me and i'll get a pic of all 4. Shamed to say it will outrun my truck.
http://i56.tinypic.com/2qv9wr4.jpg
What is all that shit on your dash bro?
G1ock
03-30-2011, 08:17 AM
What is all that shit on your dash bro?
I don't know wtf they had on the dash. I didn't take the picture, I got it off the black guy that works for my gpa's memory card.
Spider Monkey
03-30-2011, 10:23 AM
This is my off-road king. remind me and i'll get a pic of all 4. Shamed to say it will outrun my truck.
http://i56.tinypic.com/2qv9wr4.jpg
How is a stock street truck and off road king?
G1ock
03-30-2011, 10:28 AM
How is a stock street truck and off road king?
My off-road and your off-road is different. Good enough to cross a wet pasture yes...rock crawling no.
slim8605
03-30-2011, 10:36 AM
My off-road and your off-road is different. Good enough to cross a wet pasture yes...rock crawling no.
My Lancer has seen more off roading than your F150. :fyi:
G1ock
03-30-2011, 10:40 AM
My Lancer has seen more off roading than your F150. :fyi:
True. I have a Polaris Ranger, 4x4 Chevy Silverado and a GMC 2500 4x4 if i need to go off road.
wishuponansg
03-30-2011, 10:41 AM
Glock makes trucks useless ITT
Spider Monkey
03-30-2011, 10:48 AM
True. I have a Polaris Ranger, 4x4 Chevy Silverado and a GMC 2500 4x4 if i need to go off road.
Wait, say that again please?
G1ock
03-30-2011, 10:49 AM
Wait, say that again please?
My gpa has them, sorry bro.
joeboxer5876
03-31-2011, 02:22 PM
^ this
I bought a Cummins TD 6 cyl. It just happened to come wrapped in a Dodge.
Best engine in the game bro. My boss only buys cummins and detroit diesel. So our shop has a ton of dodge and volvo trucks. Would stil rather have a 3500 chevy with an allison transmission:D
I like my torsen just fine.
G1ock
03-31-2011, 04:34 PM
wrong section
I like my torsen just fine.
wrong section
Yeah bro. This is the section for talking about all the cool shit Glock has, you wanna talk about torsens then take it to the HOF you faggot.
I like my torsen just fine.
wrong section
Dear Glock,
Torsen is a gear-based limited slip type differential. This apparently is the right "section". :fyi:
Love,
SAD
G1ock
04-01-2011, 07:43 AM
Yeah bro. This is the section for talking about all the cool shit Glock has, you wanna talk about torsens then take it to the HOF you faggot.
Dear Glock,
Torsen is a gear-based limited slip type differential. This apparently is the right "section". :fyi:
Love,
SAD
Correct, I make the damn rules. lulz
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