View Full Version : New Sata Standard to arrive (6/gbps)
pl8er
03-10-2009, 11:16 AM
Faster and faster drives. This will really help out SSD.
AMD and Seagate are teaming up today in New Orleans to demonstrate the next-generation Serial ATA specification. The new specification, SATA 6Gbps, will offer twice the disk-to-host bandwidth of the existing 3Gbps Serial ATA standard. Besides the improvement in bandwidth, SATA 6Gbps offers full backwards compatibility with the earlier 3Gbps and 1.5Gbps standards, including the same cable and connector specifications.
AMD and Seagate have worked extensively on fine-tuning data streaming characteristics and users should expect to see significant improvements in this area over current 3Gbps NCQ implementations with the new drives. In addition, the new power management scheme allows the platform to instantaneously power on and off the 6Gbps SATA interface, unlike the always-on power state in current SATA systems.
Current Serial ATA hard drives on the market have average transfer rates that peak around 120MB/s, but read transfers out of the drive buffer (cache) are already hitting 288MB/s. Current caches are at 32MB with a move to 64MB shortly that will place further pressure on the current standard. In fact, the drive (modified 7200.12 design) that Seagate will demonstrate today has read transfers out of the driver buffer hitting 589MB/s.
However, the big winner initially with the new 6Gbps standard will be flash-based drives. We already have SSD drives like the Intel X25-E hitting sustained read and write rates over 200MB/s with new drive designs coming late this year that will probably saturate the current 3Gbps interface. The first customers that Seagate and AMD plan to address with this new technology are enthusiasts, low-end server markets, and users who stream high definition videos or do intensive graphics multimedia work.
Seagate and AMD were adamant that today’s technology demonstration is not an official product launch. That will come later this year when AMD formally announces their next generation chipset featuring full support for the 6Gbps standard. Both companies told us that 6Gbps SATA products might arrive before the end of 2009 but nothing is officially in the pipeline as of now.
tapout
03-10-2009, 11:17 AM
+1
pl8er
03-10-2009, 11:21 AM
+1
*blush* Why thank you :)
dragnix
03-10-2009, 08:41 PM
great, another way to make computers more expensive for me :crap:
I'd just be happy with a 2TB drive and one for backup.
dragnix
03-10-2009, 08:55 PM
I just realized that AMD is doing this. For once they're not being left behind, like their processor and graphics (until recently) cards.
pl8er
03-10-2009, 09:23 PM
Yeah, AMD is helping to set the standard but Intel is making the drive to beat right now.
pl8er
03-10-2009, 09:24 PM
I'd just be happy with a 2TB drive and one for backup.
You would think that but I'm sitting on FAR more than that mirrored and I'm still not satisfied.
dragnix
03-10-2009, 09:28 PM
Yeah, AMD is helping to set the standard but Intel is making the drive to beat right now.
Intel>AMD...
pl8er
03-10-2009, 09:30 PM
Intel>AMD...
Never a single question on that mang. Intel makes more than AMD in the first *ponders* something like 30 working days than AMD does in a year. My company produces parts for both and believe me Intel stomps AMD.
dragnix
03-10-2009, 09:32 PM
Never a single question on that mang. Intel makes more than AMD in the first *ponders* something like 30 working days than AMD does in a year. My company produces parts for both and believe me Intel stomps AMD.
hook it up with some computer parts :p
pl8er
03-10-2009, 10:35 PM
hook it up with some computer parts :p
We make targets. Not really a computer part yet.
But what do you need? I have a good deal of parts :)
IDSkot
03-10-2009, 10:35 PM
Link to article?
IDSkot
03-10-2009, 10:35 PM
We make targets. Not really a computer part yet.
But what do you need? I have a good deal of parts :)
I need SATA drives! Any size.
You would think that but I'm sitting on FAR more than that mirrored and I'm still not satisfied.
The only thing that eats up space for me is music...at 300-500MB per album it goes quick. I'm usually pretty good about keeping the rest of my files under control.
Although, if I had that much space, I'd probably get 96KHz/24B vinyl rips of everything, on top of CDs...with a couple different remasterings, just for variety :D
pl8er
03-10-2009, 10:40 PM
I need SATA drives! Any size.
Might have a couple 120's sitting around. I had 2 one went bad...I'll look and see if I have them. You're welcome to them just for shipping charges if they are still here. Might have given them to ragar though
pl8er
03-10-2009, 10:41 PM
The only thing that eats up space for me is music...at 300-500MB per album it goes quick. I'm usually pretty good about keeping the rest of my files under control.
Although, if I had that much space, I'd probably get 96KHz/24B vinyl rips of everything, on top of CDs...with a couple different remasterings, just for variety :D
Music is a big chunk...120 gigs currently. Movies, dvd's backed up software takes up another BIG chunk. Movies more than anything though
IDSkot
03-10-2009, 10:43 PM
Might have a couple 120's sitting around. I had 2 one went bad...I'll look and see if I have them. You're welcome to them just for shipping charges if they are still here. Might have given them to ragar though
Oh, man. You'd be the shit.
I currently have a single 120 in my PC, and I'm constantly deleting shit because I don't have enough room. D:
How did people ever survive with 1mb HDDs?
Music is a big chunk...120 gigs currently. Movies, dvd's backed up software takes up another BIG chunk. Movies more than anything though
I have 40gb on this pc, 45 or so on my other PC, and I have a few DVDs filled with music. I also have a bunch of movies, too.
I love the internet.
Yeah, I haven't gotten into movies like that yet. I have most everything I want to watch on DVD.
Some day when I get a projector, though...
dragnix
03-10-2009, 11:26 PM
How did people ever survive with 1mb HDDs?
their porn were mostly hand drawn :fyi:
Can i have a 120gb hard drive?
dragnix
03-10-2009, 11:55 PM
i'm not that big of a nerd to know what you just wrote Jim
IDSkot
03-10-2009, 11:56 PM
i'm not that big of a nerd to know what you just wrote Jim
ASCII is basically drawing out pictures with characters.
Like the pictures of a middle finger made out of all sorts of letters and punctuation points.
Toasted1
03-10-2009, 11:57 PM
How did people ever survive with 1mb HDDs?
My second computer had dual 10MB hard drives, I remember getting it and thinking I would be good for life now :laugh:
The answer is we used to download pictures of porn not movies and it took like 10-15 minutes just to download one picture. I remember having like 10 pics I must have jerked off 500 times to those damn things.
dragnix
03-11-2009, 12:02 AM
My second computer had dual 10MB hard drives, I remember getting it and thinking I would be good for life now :laugh:
The answer is we used to download pictures of porn not movies and it took like 10-15 minutes just to download one picture. I remember having like 10 pics I must have jerked off 500 times to those damn things.
You're wrong, first it was pictures, then GIF, then 10 sec. clips, now we have full blown movies. Evolution is great.
dragnix
03-11-2009, 12:03 AM
ASCII is basically drawing out pictures with characters.
Like the pictures of a middle finger made out of all sorts of letters and punctuation points.
i see, those are cool. Is that shit programming? I always think that some sad mofo is sitting there in front of the screen and holding down the space key
pl8er
03-11-2009, 07:43 AM
Yeah, I haven't gotten into movies like that yet. I have most everything I want to watch on DVD.
Some day when I get a projector, though...
I started to encode the movies to hard drive so that I could just pick it from a file and play it without waiting for it to load. My media center connects to my server and it really cuts down on finding the dvd, waiting for it to load etc etc. Just click and start.
pl8er
03-11-2009, 07:44 AM
My second computer had dual 10MB hard drives, I remember getting it and thinking I would be good for life now :laugh:
The answer is we used to download pictures of porn not movies and it took like 10-15 minutes just to download one picture. I remember having like 10 pics I must have jerked off 500 times to those damn things.
ha ha ha! Or you would go to picpost and hoping that the description was what it actually was...and if you got about 1/4 of the way and it wasn't hit back as quick as possible.
Man I'm glad the internet is faster now :P
GearGuy2001
03-16-2009, 11:00 PM
My new computer is getting a 32GB ssd drive. Ill report back what I think :)
90lac
03-17-2009, 01:31 AM
ide buy an computer with an amd processor before i bought one with an intel
brynm
03-18-2009, 10:31 AM
ide buy an computer with an amd processor before i bought one with an intel
Reason?
pl8er
03-18-2009, 10:38 AM
My new computer is getting a 32GB ssd drive. Ill report back what I think :)
Please do. According to the reports I've read you are going to see a great increase in speed (compared to another other than a raptor) also less noise, lower power usage. Only problem is that the longterm re-writes are not up to par yet and the drives have a MUCH higher failure rate. Continue to backup your stuff for some time.
ide buy an computer with an amd processor before i bought one with an intel
I'd like a reason on this. In years past, I would agree. AMD had a great cost-to-performance ratio. Now it just does not make sense to me to go with anyone but Intel. I have an AMD X2 and it takes a royal ass kicking from my wife's Q6600. not to mention hers can be overclocked a good deal (which it currently is not)
Intel is just ahead of the curve.
Terranova
03-18-2009, 01:56 PM
Should be interesting. I got one of the new 32mb WD drives (1 tb) and copying files to that drive was insanley fast. A whole lot faster than I expected. 700gigs transferred in about an hour which IMO is pretty good
pl8er
03-20-2009, 01:19 AM
Should be interesting. I got one of the new 32mb WD drives (1 tb) and copying files to that drive was insanley fast. A whole lot faster than I expected. 700gigs transferred in about an hour which IMO is pretty good
They continue to get faster and faster. My company has a SAN array connected to the blade servers. You can dump an entire drive to another in less than a minutes (fiber drive for the win). And just to take it one step further, it can detect a failure in the drive and transfer before the drive dies. Almost defeats the need for RAID (although they all use it).
joetama
03-20-2009, 09:22 AM
I need a new computer...
pl8er
03-20-2009, 04:04 PM
I need a new computer...
I was thinking the same and realized I had a motherboard, proc and 2gb of RAM downstairs that is brand new. Going to install that to replace my AMD X2 next week. :D
hustlemanlv
03-22-2009, 06:59 AM
i need that
hustlemanlv
03-22-2009, 06:59 AM
any ideas on priceing?
joetama
03-24-2009, 08:24 PM
My laptop is slowly inching closer and closer to death.
Honestly, I'm not going to buy another laptop again.
Alcoholic
03-26-2009, 02:05 PM
yummy. now if they can get the size of SSD's to go up I'll think about buying a couple.
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