View Full Version : Antenna vs Cat-5 runnage...
IDSkot
03-14-2009, 01:30 AM
Up until lately, I had the modem/router in my room, with CAT-5 directly to my PC. But, we recently relocated it to my mom's room. Now I'm stuck with this wireless bull. I was downloading between 300-600kb/s on torrents... now I'm downloading at a ridiculous 50-100kb/s. It's a snail's pace to say the least.
Right now I have a 7db antenna, with twin stockers on the router. I have one of two options:
I run a 100ft CAT-5 cable through the roof
CONS: I have to drill my house. I also have to crawl around in insulation... which is never nice.
PROS: I could have absolute highest connection possible
Get an antenna for the router.
CONS: Antennas are expensive, and it opens us up for a bigger range of people to steal our i-netz. We have a password... but, still.
If I were to get a bigger one for my room... 24db antennas cost a lot. (About $100 bucks.)
Also, even if we do get the 24db, it's not definite that my connection will be much better... I definitely won't be able to get 300-600kb/s I was getting before
PROS: I don't have to drill a hole in my fucking roof, or wrestle in the insulation-filled attic.
And, I know I could make those ghetto home-made ones with tin cans... but this is in my Mom's room, and I'm not going to make a mockery of her room with tin fucking cans.
shouldnt be that big of a diff in wireless and wired. i've ran wireless before and got the same speeds on torrents i was getting before. if your speed is changing that much, its either the torrent or lack of bandwidth.
IDSkot
03-14-2009, 10:31 AM
shouldnt be that big of a diff in wireless and wired. i've ran wireless before and got the same speeds on torrents i was getting before. if your speed is changing that much, its either the torrent or lack of bandwidth.
The connection is a lot different. From PC to Router, Ethernet is 100mbps, with this I range from 40-8mbps. ATM I have 36 with a good signal strength. But the signal strength fluctuates a lot. It's actually really peculiar.
What's the problem with a big antenna in your room?
IDSkot
03-14-2009, 11:37 AM
What's the problem with a big antenna in your room?
Well, like I said: it's not a big deal. Just the price tag on it is a bit over whelming.
If you remove the "looking pretty" part of it, it can be done for cheap :)
IDSkot
03-14-2009, 11:53 AM
If you remove the "looking pretty" part of it, it can be done for cheap :)
Eh. That's a possibility... but somehow running CAT-5 cable seems a lot... better.
I dont feel like reading this, but that wont stop me from poasting.
IDSkot
03-14-2009, 01:13 PM
I dont feel like reading this, but that wont stop me from poasting.
Poast on.
I did. Now I am poasting under your satan post...
pl8er
03-14-2009, 01:32 PM
If your network backplane is running at 1gbps, then using cat-5(e)or -6 would make more sense to me. If your only running 100mbps then a wireless-g will be plenty. Honestly, both are much faster than your internet is capable of running and you should see not saturation of bandwidth.
I would add option C personally. But a new router that is Wireless-N
"cantennas" are directional and won't help in this situation
IDSkot
03-14-2009, 01:37 PM
Cantennas?
pl8er
03-14-2009, 01:38 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Super-Cantenna-WiFi-booster-w-Buffalo-wireless-card_W0QQitemZ160320203316QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item160320203316&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72:1234|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50
pl8er
03-14-2009, 01:39 PM
How much do you want to spend realistically?
pl8er
03-14-2009, 01:41 PM
You can pick up a wireless N router for 49.99-69.99 and a card for about 29.99. This would give you increased speed, much further range and no wires.
Search wireless-N on newegg. I would get a router and a new card as your current will not be supporting the high speed (unless you bought wireless N prior)
I'm on wireless g and get better speen than the wired comuter upstairs.
:shrug:
Someone buy me a wireless N router...
Can someone else buy it for me?
That was harsh, I'm sorry... Can I have a hug?
wasted ink
03-14-2009, 06:17 PM
I'll buy you one, Hoss.
:woot:
Thanks wasted :) .
Wait, are you buying the router or a hug?
wasted ink
03-14-2009, 06:19 PM
Wait, are you buying the router or a hug?
Either, if I can borrow the Hossauge for the weekend.
I need an itenerary of what you are planning with the hossauge...
wasted ink
03-14-2009, 06:20 PM
:sneaky:
:bukkake:
wasted ink
03-14-2009, 06:22 PM
Send the hossauge first. Package it good now, I don't want it DOA.
I dont know about that... do you have any refs? The hossauge is never DOA... It is always ready for pleasing.
wasted ink
03-14-2009, 06:27 PM
Mad refs, dood.
pl8er
03-14-2009, 06:32 PM
I'm on wireless g and get better speen than the wired comuter upstairs.
:shrug:
Then something is wrong or your wired router is old as SHIT :P
Wireless G = 54 MAX normal routers = 100.
Wireless N has extended range though, which is why I think it would be a better solution than a high-gain antenna.
maddskillzz
03-14-2009, 08:40 PM
something is wrong...lemme break it down..assumming you were downloading 600k a sec straight to the router im gonna assume you have somewhere around a 6-9mb connection to the internet...the lowest wireless G will even hook up is 11mbps, which is still almost twice the speed of your connection....you might wanna look at a new router or a new card for your computer...check out hawking technologies..they make repeaters that are suppose to hook to any router..meaning you could put this half way between the router and your room and double your signal strength...plugs right in the wall with no wires to the router and isnt much bigger than a nighlight..
pl8er
03-14-2009, 10:59 PM
something is wrong...lemme break it down..assumming you were downloading 600k a sec straight to the router im gonna assume you have somewhere around a 6-9mb connection to the internet...the lowest wireless G will even hook up is 11mbps, which is still almost twice the speed of your connection....you might wanna look at a new router or a new card for your computer...check out hawking technologies..they make repeaters that are suppose to hook to any router..meaning you could put this half way between the router and your room and double your signal strength...plugs right in the wall with no wires to the router and isnt much bigger than a nighlight..
I agree that something is wrong, but a repeater on a damaged router will only leave problems. To solve this, a wireless N would be the most efficient. Higher speed, better range. Exactly what he is looking for.
IDSkot
03-15-2009, 05:45 PM
something is wrong...lemme break it down..assumming you were downloading 600k a sec straight to the router im gonna assume you have somewhere around a 6-9mb connection to the internet...the lowest wireless G will even hook up is 11mbps, which is still almost twice the speed of your connection....you might wanna look at a new router or a new card for your computer...check out hawking technologies..they make repeaters that are suppose to hook to any router..meaning you could put this half way between the router and your room and double your signal strength...plugs right in the wall with no wires to the router and isnt much bigger than a nighlight..
This is true. Honestly, I'm into hard ware... I'm not really good with networking. I'm not sure what complications would arise from changing routers. I just remember that this router has always given us problems, which is why I'm hesitant to switch.
pl8er
03-15-2009, 08:05 PM
This is true. Honestly, I'm into hard ware... I'm not really good with networking. I'm not sure what complications would arise from changing routers. I just remember that this router has always given us problems, which is why I'm hesitant to switch.
As long as you don't have to enter sign on info. It should actually be plug and plug. Unplug modem, unplug old router. Plug back in modem....let it cycle. Plug modem into router then plug in computers. You should setup security (password etc) but that is roughly it.
If you have a friend that you "REALLY" trust...you could let them remote in and finalize the wireless security stuff after your back online through remote connection (your settings can be changed via a web interface)
IDSkot
03-15-2009, 08:10 PM
As long as you don't have to enter sign on info. It should actually be plug and plug. Unplug modem, unplug old router. Plug back in modem....let it cycle. Plug modem into router then plug in computers. You should setup security (password etc) but that is roughly it.
If you have a friend that you "REALLY" trust...you could let them remote in and finalize the wireless security stuff after your back online through remote connection (your settings can be changed via a web interface)
It's a modem/router mix. It's in the same unit.
pl8er
03-15-2009, 08:12 PM
It's a modem/router mix. It's in the same unit.
DHCP will run on the modem then give one ip to the new router....that will also be DHCP and assign IP's to all the computers using it.
Or, turn off the DHCP on the modem/router.
ngsm13
03-15-2009, 10:13 PM
I'm usually constantly hard-wired at my home, just easy...
nG
IDSkot
03-15-2009, 11:14 PM
DHCP will run on the modem then give one ip to the new router....that will also be DHCP and assign IP's to all the computers using it.
Or, turn off the DHCP on the modem/router.
So, turn DHCP off on the unit I have now, and hook it up to the new Wireless N router?
I mean, the problem with that is I'd need a new antenna, wouldn't I? Or would the one I have now work? I could've swore they differ. Although that doesn't make sense now that I think about it...
I'm usually constantly hard-wired at my home, just easy...
nG
Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Hard wired causes the least amount of problems and performs the best.
hemroids
03-16-2009, 04:07 AM
by the time you typed all this stuff it could have been ran already. It even helps the house for resale having nice wall plates for internet in every room. Every time I went to pain a room at my house I installed a wallplate with an internet and cable connection on at least 2 walls in that room. I have a ll the wire run into the basement and someday i will set up a nice homerun box. right now its alll still kinda ghetto with just hubs and splitters
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