Will police abuse always exist?

[Toasted1]

I always thought with every fucking thing seeming to have a camera now including cruisers it would cut down but then I see shit like this.

Yes what the guy did was fucked and he did deserve it but 1 The guy only shot a blank and 2 The guy was so drunk there is no way in hell he would have been able to aim and hit the cop.

While the cop has been cleared of any wrongdoing I can't help but think there could have been a better option, maybe calling in backup and starting negotiations :wat:

Here is the vid http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/vmix_cdf93fba-47ca-11df-9f5c-001cc4c002e0.html

[IamDeMan]

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[Tiger Bass]

What an asshole cop. Tried to kill that poor guy when all he wanted to do was get home.

[rangerbabe]

wtf thats fucked up

[Pop Da Hatch]

fuck da police and shit.

[jesus]

I see nothing wrong with the cops response. I hope he bled out and it was painful as shit.

[Toasted1]

What an asshole cop. Tried to kill that poor guy when all he wanted to do was get home.

Word dude was having a rough night and should probably be in jail but did he really deserve the death penalty.



HAMILTON – Raymond “Thane” Davis was born Sept. 17, 1973. He was given freedom from his earthly cares on Saturday, Jan. 2, 2010.

Thane had a great love of the outdoors. Whether it was camping, hiking or fishing you could find him there enjoying Montana’s big sky country. One of his favorite places in the summer was jumping off the Corvallis Bridge and swimming in his beloved river.

His passion was hitching horse hair and Western arts. He loved old country music and Ford Mustangs; they were “his car.”

Thane was a big teddy bear who had a heart of gold. He would give anyone that was down and out a second chance. When Thane came back to the valley after a long absence, he found not everyone was as forgiving as he was. The last year of his life was filled with ups and downs. Immense joys and deep, deep sorrows. He is now happy forever in the loving arms of his Savior Jesus Christ, who he knew without a doubt, would always forgive him.

Thane is survived by his grandparents, Alfred and Mary Haws; mother Sue (Ken) Ireland; father Ray Davis; sisters Raylene (Chris) Wroble and Sherry Ireland; children Sasha Nott, Kasey Smith, Dylan Davis and Geena Petermann.

Thane will be truly missed by his friends and family.

A memorial service will be held at 2 p.m. Saturday, Jan. 9, at the Daly-Leach Chapel in Hamilton, with Pastor Jim Andrusky officiating. Private family urn placement will take place at a later date.

In lieu of flowers the family suggests donations to the Thane Davis Memorial fund, c/o Sue Ireland, 610 N. First Street, Hamilton, MT 59840.

[jesus]

If any family ever deserved to be trolled, it's the Thane Davis family.

[grassroots]

fuck you if you think the cop did anything wrong

seriously

trying to say that pulling a gun and firing it at a police officer (or anyone for that matter) isn't cause for getting YOUR ass killed is absolutely bullshit.

[jesus]

lolumad bb?

[o. l. t.]

And I ain't your mama and I ain't your pops
Keep your music down or you might get shot
This is a warning so watch your tail
Or I'm a have to put your ass in jail
I'm the police and I'm in charge
You don't like it get the fuck outta Dodge


YouTube- Public Enemy - Get The Fuck Outta Dodge (Uncut)

[Toasted1]

fuck you if you think the cop did anything wrong

seriously

trying to say that pulling a gun and firing it at a police officer (or anyone for that matter) isn't cause for getting YOUR ass killed is absolutely bullshit.

He didn't fire it, it was a blank :fyi: cop was well within safe distance before he decided to unload like Rambo (14 shots really?)

I'm no cop but I'm pretty sure I would have went back to my cruiser and called for backup and worked on a peaceful resolution if possible.. I realize it may have not been but the guy seemed pretty calm so who really knows :wat:

Just kind of sad we have a dead guy, five fatherless kids who we will probably end up supporting and a broken telephone pole that possibly could have been avoided.

I'm guessing if you really think your life is in danger you don't always think right in the heat of the moment.

Can't say I would be surprised if the family sues over this though.

[grassroots]

lolumad bb?

bb?

i'm a little tipsy... which fueled my post. but really, defending that guy is just dumb.

[jesus]

He didn't fire it, it was a blank :fyi: cop was well within safe distance before he decided to unload like Rambo (14 shots really?)

I'm no cop but I'm pretty sure I would have went back to my cruiser and called for backup and worked on a peaceful resolution if possible.. I realize it may have not been but the guy seemed pretty calm so who really knows :wat:

Just kind of sad we have a dead guy, five fatherless kids who we will probably end up supporting and a broken telephone pole that possibly could have been avoided.

I'm guessing if you really think your life is in danger you don't always think right in the heat of the moment.

Can't say I would be surprised if the family sues over this though.

My dad made me shoot my dog when I was in high school to be a dick.

I unloaded 2 clips into him. :fyi:

[o. l. t.]

My dad made me shoot my dog when I was in high school to be a dick.

I unloaded 2 clips into him. :fyi:

should have turned the gun around in the other direction and capped him.

[JimJ]

Yes what the guy did was fucked and he did deserve it

All that needed to be said.

[grassroots]

He didn't fire it, it was a blank :fyi: cop was well within safe distance before he decided to unload like Rambo (14 shots really?)

I'm no cop but I'm pretty sure I would have went back to my cruiser and called for backup and worked on a peaceful resolution if possible.. I realize it may have not been but the guy seemed pretty calm so who really knows :wat:


he fired a weapon at a cop. end of story. i'm not even going to argue this any further, if you can't rationalize this, i'm not going to waste my time.

you sound like someone who has never been in a life or death situation. you rely on instincts and training after someone fires a gun at your head. the officers training was to return fire which he did.

"the guy seemed pretty calm". the cop? i guarantee you after the adrenaline wore off his hands were shaking too much to open his car door.

if you make bad decisions, be prepared to deal with the consequences.

[Alpine4life89]

So the cop shot him and killed him?

I would have shot at the guy in car as well. Just to make sure he didn't fire back and hit me as he was driving off.

[jesus]

should have turned the gun around in the other direction and capped him.

No, he left and demanded the deed be done before he got home.

[Superlifted06FX4]

i loled when the dumbfuck hit the pole.

[Superlifted06FX4]

he fired a weapon at a cop. end of story. i'm not even going to argue this any further, if you can't rationalize this, i'm not going to waste my time.

you sound like someone who has never been in a life or death situation. you rely on instincts and training after someone fires a gun at your head. the officers training was to return fire which he did.

"the guy seemed pretty calm". the cop? i guarantee you after the adrenaline wore off his hands were shaking too much to open his car door.

if you make bad decisions, be prepared to deal with the consequences.

This

[rangerbabe]

He didn't fire it, it was a blank :fyi: cop was well within safe distance before he decided to unload like Rambo (14 shots really?)

I'm no cop but I'm pretty sure I would have went back to my cruiser and called for backup and worked on a peaceful resolution if possible.. I realize it may have not been but the guy seemed pretty calm so who really knows :wat:

Just kind of sad we have a dead guy, five fatherless kids who we will probably end up supporting and a broken telephone pole that possibly could have been avoided.

I'm guessing if you really think your life is in danger you don't always think right in the heat of the moment.

Can't say I would be surprised if the family sues over this though.


This.

[Snowboarder117]

He didn't fire it, it was a blank :fyi: cop was well within safe distance before he decided to unload like Rambo (14 shots really?)

I'm no cop but I'm pretty sure I would have went back to my cruiser and called for backup and worked on a peaceful resolution if possible.. I realize it may have not been but the guy seemed pretty calm so who really knows :wat:

Just kind of sad we have a dead guy, five fatherless kids who we will probably end up supporting and a broken telephone pole that possibly could have been avoided.

I'm guessing if you really think your life is in danger you don't always think right in the heat of the moment.

Can't say I would be surprised if the family sues over this though.

if that were spared everything would be chill...
did you see those sparks though!?? coooooll

[ThomasG]

First off I don't know if this is a troll thread or not. I don't think the cop did anything wrong and I fucking hate police brutality. I'm usually against the cops in these situations but the stupid ass pulled out a gun on cop.

[grassroots]

hey toasted1. here's a video of a cop that didn't want to use deadly force.

YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

[atoz350]

I'm not mexican.

[Snowboarder117]

yea don't worry about it, people don't shoot at cops.

[Superlifted06FX4]

hey toasted1. here's a video of a cop that didn't want to use deadly force.

YouTube- Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX5kwVc9IOk)

Thats fucked..

[John3000]

Obvious Troll is Obvious.............

[Superlifted06FX4]

Yes, you are

[Toasted1]

hey toasted1. here's a video of a cop that didn't want to use deadly force.



Totally different scene I'm not sure how you can compare the two videos but I do hope they ended up having to blast that guy.

Wonder why he couldn't hit him with so many shots. I would have had that guy pepper sprayed and hog tied if he came out tweaking out like that to me.

[Mr. Shickadance]

I always thought with every fucking thing seeming to have a camera now including cruisers it would cut down but then I see shit like this.

Yes what the guy did was fucked and he did deserve it but 1 The guy only shot a blank and 2 The guy was so drunk there is no way in hell he would have been able to aim and hit the cop.

While the cop has been cleared of any wrongdoing I can't help but think there could have been a better option, maybe calling in backup and starting negotiations :wat:

Here is the vid http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/vmix_cdf93fba-47ca-11df-9f5c-001cc4c002e0.html

hey toasted1. here's a video of a cop that didn't want to use deadly force.

YouTube- Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX5kwVc9IOk)

both those dudes were innocent, it's those violent video games that made them do it

[IamDeMan]

both those dudes were innocent, it's those violent video games that made them do it

:hi5:

[ragar31]

If you pull out a gun and shoot it, you deserve to be killed.

[pl8er]

If you pull out a gun and shoot it, you deserve to be killed.

What if you just pull out a gun and point it at them? Is that okay?

[IamDeMan]

He didn't deserve to be killed. Once the officer was out of danger he should have stopped firing, but he kept emptying that clip. However, I can understand how/why it happened. If I just thought someone had shot a real gun at me, they would be dead. Way too much adrenaline to stop in that situation. In the end it was the drivers fault he is no longer amongst the living. No one could reasonably fault the officer given the circumstances imo.

[J31Bro]

Police abuse will stop when black people die off.

[slim8605]

Police abuse will stop when black people die off.

And mexicans, bitch!

[slim8605]

Or when whites die off. No whites. No shitty cops.

[pl8er]

Or when whites die off. No whites. No shitty cops.

Oh, so there are no bad black cops?


You trippin

[pl8er]

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/gallery/1110027/photo_08_hires.jpg

[slim8605]

Maybe there are one or two bad black cops but that's Denzel. He gets a pass.

[_AnGeL_]

tl;dr

[slim8605]

And they call us lazy...

[Echo42987]

I'm hoping in late and don't agree w/ the OP at all. There was no way in hell that the guy would've known it was a blank. I bet your ass you would've done the same shit in that situation. Have a gun shoved in your face and if you have one on you as well I guarantee you'll draw and start to fire. I agree w/ what the cop did and it's the guys fault for pulling one out to begin with. Especially since my best friend is a cop, I would expect him to protect himself and do the same. Fucker messed w/ the wrong cop. If you pull a gun on a cop expect one to be pulled on you. Don't give a shit if he was drunk either, it's his fault he was a dumb ass and driving under the influence as well. And no I don't do that, always have a DD

[rangerbabe]

I'm hoping in late and don't agree w/ the OP at all. There was no way in hell that the guy would've known it was a blank. I bet your ass you would've done the same shit in that situation. Have a gun shoved in your face and if you have one on you as well I guarantee you'll draw and start to fire. I agree w/ what the cop did and it's the guys fault for pulling one out to begin with. Especially since my best friend is a cop, I would expect him to protect himself and do the same. Fucker messed w/ the wrong cop. If you pull a gun on a cop expect one to be pulled on you. Don't give a shit if he was drunk either, it's his fault he was a dumb ass and driving under the influence as well. And no I don't do that, always have a DD

yeah but the cop couldnt have taken it a different way, ok yeah he should have pulled the gun, but because it was a blank, he could have shot the tires, so the van wouldnt move, and then go after the guy and arrest him. no reason to keep shooting like he did.

[IamDeMan]

yeah but the cop couldnt have taken it a different way, ok yeah he should have pulled the gun, but because it was a blank, he could have shot the tires, so the van wouldnt move, and then go after the guy and arrest him. no reason to keep shooting like he did.

Yes, but the incident is still understandable. No matter how much training in this instant pure adrenaline and survival instinct just kicks in. That is a huge amount of duress in a short amount of time to expect most brains to stay completely logical.

[J31Bro]

Yes, but the incident is still understandable. No matter how much training in this instant pure adrenaline and survival instinct just kicks in. That is a huge amount of duress in a short amount of time to expect most brains to stay completely logical.

:icon14:

[Superlifted06FX4]

Yes, but the incident is still understandable. No matter how much training in this instant pure adrenaline and survival instinct just kicks in. That is a huge amount of duress in a short amount of time to expect most brains to stay completely logical.

This, its simple.

[o. l. t.]

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A coroner's jury ruled Tuesday that Hamilton Police Officer Ross Jessop was justified in shooting Raymond Thane Davis to death after the Hamilton man opened fire during a late night traffic stop in January.

It took the six-woman jury one hour to make its ruling following nearly five hours of testimony, which included a videotape that showed Davis pointing a pistol inches from Jessop's face and pulling the trigger.

The click of the revolver's hammer hitting a previously fired round was audible on the tape.

Davis fired a second time as the officer fell back and drew his own weapon.

Jessop fired his pistol 14 times into Davis' vehicle as it sped away. One round hit the man in the back. Davis, 36, died on the scene.

His .41 caliber revolver was recovered on the floorboard. Its hammer was cocked and ready to fire.

Witnesses testified Tuesday Davis' taste for whiskey and a bad case of jealousy were to blame for the fatal confrontation.

Shannon Diaz, bar manager at Hamilton's Office and Silver Coin Casino, said Davis was acting strange enough on the evening of Jan. 1 that she wouldn't serve alcohol to him.

"He was completely not like himself ... when he starts drinking whiskey, he just completely turns into a different person," Diaz said.

She told him he needed to leave.

Davis returned later and found Diaz, his girlfriend and another man sitting outside. The man - who is African American - had loaned Davis' girlfriend his coat.

That set Davis off, Diaz said.

He shouted racial epithets and later texted the same to his girlfriend. When he returned to the bar, Diaz had bouncers and her husband put him out.

She said later someone received a text message saying Davis had a gun.

Tracy Womack, owner of the Ponderosa Bar, said Davis was fine when she first saw him around 9 p.m., but she knew he'd been fighting with his girlfriend when he came back later.

"He was drinking Black Velvet cokes," Womack said. "I also saw him do a snakebite - Yukon Jack with Rose's Lime juice."

When Davis' girlfriend came back to the bar later, she asked to hide behind the bar.

"She sat on a little stool ... she didn't want him to see her," Womack said.

He spotted her the second time he came back and started yelling racial epithets at her again about wearing the man's jacket. Womack told him to leave.

"I knew I needed to protect her and get him gone," she said.

Davis moved to the Rainbow Bar where he continued to drink whiskey and cokes.

The bartender there, Nicholas Renzo, remembered wrapping up Davis' hand, which was bleeding.

"He said he hit a wall or something ... anyone who knows him, knows he shouldn't drink whiskey," Renzo testified. "He gets violent."

He told Renzo later he had a gun. Just before Davis got ready to leave that night at about 1:30 a.m., he looked at Renzo and told him "It was nice knowing you. I'm not going to see you for awhile."

Renzo said he thought was the alcohol talking.

Davis told another patron at the Rainbow Bar the same story.

After saying "it was a pleasure knowing you," Brian Webb said Davis took his hand and placed it on the small of his back. Webb said he felt the outline of a pistol.

"He was definitely three sheets to the wind," Webb said.

Jessop was raised in Pinesdale. He is a 2001 Corvallis graduate who has been working with the Hamilton Police Department since 2008.

On Jan. 1, he came on shift at 4:45 p.m. He was scheduled to get off work 10 hours later at 2:45 a.m.

Jessop first saw Davis that night talking to two Hamilton police officers.

The men were questioning Davis about some battery cables that had been cut on his girlfriend's car earlier that night. Jessop saw Davis shake the officers' hands and go back inside.

The officers told Jessop that Davis was heavily intoxicated and had been warned not to drive.

Not long afterwards, Jessop spotted Davis' Lincoln Navigator driving north on Second Street. He pulled in behind and followed the vehicle as it turned on Adirondack Street. When Davis used a turn lane to drive straight through the next intersection, Jessop turned on his lights.

Davis crossed the railroad tracks on Fairgrounds Road and pulled over on a patch of dirt almost directly across from the fairgrounds entrance.

Jessop activated his spotlight.

And then the officer saw something that he'd never seen before during a traffic stop. Davis reached out and slowly adjusted his mirror so he could see the officer.

"That's very unusual," Jessop testified. "Our spotlights are very bright and they hurt your eyes."

Most people immediately turn their mirrors so the light is reflected away from their face.

"At that point, I was caught off guard," he said. "I approached with a little more caution than I usually do."

Jessop could smell the alcohol on Davis as soon as he neared the window. He asked the man how much he'd drank that night.

"Plenty," came the reply.

Jessop said the face that stared out the window that night was hard to describe.

"It was argumentative ... very sure of himself, almost cocky."

Jessop asked him what he meant by plenty. A split second later the officer was staring down the barrel of a .41 magnum Smith and Wesson pistol.

"The end looked bigger than a quarter," Jessop said.

Jessop heard a click.

Davis pulled the trigger and the hammer fell on an empty round.

"My very first thought ... after I realized it was a revolver was I was terrified. Absolutely terrified," Jessop testified. "I recall thinking I wasn't going to see my wife again. I wasn't going to see my mom, my brothers, or my sisters, or my coworkers or my dogs. I was terrified."

Jessop moved his face away from the threat as fast as he could.

"I did hear the click," he said. "I remember stopping. I was actually hoping it was just a joke ... I remember thinking why would you do that to an officer?"

And then he saw Davis' head readjust.

"I remember thinking the reason he's readjusting his head is he's going to shoot again," Jessop said.

He ran toward the back of Davis' vehicle, while drawing his Glock, Model 22.

He heard a gunshot.

"My next thought was I had to defend myself and eliminate the threat to me," Jessop said. "I don't recall drawing my weapon. I do remember my first shot. I was conscious that I was shooting my gun."

Jessop thought he'd fired 7 or 8 rounds. It turned out he'd fired 14.

Six bullets hit Davis' vehicle, including the one that drove through the passenger and driver's seats and into Davis' back.

After Davis' vehicle stuck the power company's building and came to a stop, Jessop loaded his rifle and got in his car and moved closer.

Ravalli County Attorney George Corn asked him why - after he'd just been nearly killed - did he move closer to his assailant.

"My duty as an officer is to make sure the community is safe," Jessop said. "I had no idea if I hit him or not. My thought was to get close enough to keep the area safe and keep myself safe."

Davis was dead when he was pulled from his vehicle by officers not long afterwards.

The investigation of the shooting was completed by the Missoula Police Department. The investigative team all testified Tuesday. John Pohle, the Powell County Coroner presided over the inquest.

Missoula Police Department Lt. Steve Brester led the investigation.

This wasn't the first time Davis had been on the wrong side of the law, Brester said.

In 1998, he was convicted of felony aggravated battery in Idaho after he beat his ex-girlfriend's boyfriend after she claimed she'd been abused. Witnesses in that case said he kicked the man 20 to 30 times while he was on the ground. When Davis heard the man making a gurgling sound, he went back and stomped on his face eight or nine more times.

He was convicted in 2003 of assaulting a Hamilton Police Officer and sent back to prison.

At the end of the hearing, Corn called Brester back to the stand one last time.

By now, Jessop was sitting in the front row, flanked by his fellow officers. His wife was sitting a row back and other supporters filled the courtroom.

Corn wanted Brester's professional opinion: Was it necessary for Officer Jessop to shoot Davis?

"My opinion is that Mr. Davis purposely put his .41 magnum into the face of Officer Jessop with the intention of killing him," Brester replied. "Officer Jessop had no choice but to respond with lethal force."

The jury agreed unanimously.

[Glock17]

I see nothing the Officer did wrong, play with fire and you will get burned....."self defense"