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NEW YORK — In time for the widely expected launch of a new iPhone model, carrier AT&T Inc. is pulling in the reins on data usage by its customers with smart phones and iPads.
The sole U.S. carrier of the iPhone is introducing two new data plans, starting June 7, with limits on data consumption. They'll replace the $30 monthly plan with unlimited usage that it has required for all smart phones, including the iPhone.
With the change, AT&T is adopting a carrot-and-stick approach to assuage the data congestion on its network, which has been a source of complaints, especially in cities such as New York and San Francisco that are thick with iPhone users. The new plans will take effect just as Apple is expected to unveil the next generation of its iPhone at an event Monday in San Francisco.
Subscribers who use little data or learn to limit their consumption will pay slightly less every month than they do now, while heavy users will be dinged with extra consumption fees.
One new plan will cost $25 per month and offer 2 gigabytes of data per month, which AT&T says will be enough for 98 percent of its smart phone customers. Additional gigabytes will cost $10 each.
A second plan will cost $15 per month for 200 megabytes of data, which AT&T says is enough for 65 percent of its smart phone customers. If they go over, they'll pay another $15 for 200 megabytes.
With that plan and voice service, a smart phone could cost as little as $55 per month before taxes and add-on fees, down from $70 per month. Ralph de la Vega, the head of AT&T's consumer business, said that means smart phones can become accessible to more people.
"Customers are getting a good deal, and if they can understand their usage, they can save some money," de la Vega said in an interview.
Current AT&T subscribers will be allowed to keep the unlimited plan, even if they renew their contracts. But all new subscribers will have to choose one of the two new plans.
Figuring out which one to choose may not be easy, given that many people have only a hazy notion of the size of a gigabyte and how many they use now. A gigabyte is enough for hundreds of e-mails and Web pages, but it's quickly eaten up by Internet video and videoconferencing.
De la Vega said AT&T is doing its part to educate consumers, by letting them track their usage online. The iPhone contains a data usage tracking tool. The carrier will also text-message subscribers to let them know they're getting close to their limits.
Data usage over Wi-Fi, including AT&T's public Wi-Fi hot spots, will not count toward the limits.
The new $25-per-month plan will replace the current $30 plan with unlimited usage that is available for the iPad, the tablet computer Apple Inc. released just a few months ago, though iPad owners can keep the old plan as long as they keep paying $30 per month, AT&T said.
Paradoxically, the data caps arrive at time when carriers have started to lift the limits on other forms of wireless use, by selling plans with unlimited calling and unlimited text messaging. That's not a big gamble, because not many people have the time to talk phone for eight hours a day or spend every waking minute sending text messages. But smart phones can draw a lot of data, depending one where and how they're used. With the new plans, de la Vega hopes to see high-consumption applications like Internet video being steered toward hot spots, where they don't clog up AT&T's cellular network.
Consumers have rebelled against the idea of data usage caps on home broadband, at least when the limits are set low enough to make online video consumption expensive. Time Warner Cable Inc. was forced to back away from trials of data caps last year after consumer protests and threats of legislative action.
In the wireless world, where data capacity is more constrained, usage caps are more common. Most wireless carriers, for instance, limit data cards for laptops to 5 gigabytes per month.
But with intense competition for smart phone users, phone companies have been reluctant to impose similar limits on those devices, although Sprint Nextel Corp. reserves the right to slow down or disconnect users who exceed 5 gigabytes per month. It remains to be seen whether AT&T's rivals will join it in imposing caps or use their own "unlimited" plans as a marketing advantage.
Cliffs: ATT is getting rid of their $30/month unlimited data plan, and replacing it with a pretty restrictive data use plan in an effort to drive away what few customers it has, and in the process destroying the iphone.
Oh, and yeah, if Apple doesnt find someone else to carry the iPhone ASAP, then ATT may have just solidified Android as the victor :crap:
But I am expecting Apple to have a little something to say about this...
Especially since this doesn't just affect the iphone, but also the iPad.
One more poast, just for good measure.
toasted1
06-02-2010, 09:01 AM
wtf att must have missed the memo that everyone is droppingrates not raising them :laugh:
i doubt there will be many providers not offering $50 unlimited min/data/txt by the end of the year.
wtf att must have missed the memo that everyone is droppingrates not raising them :laugh:
i doubt there will be many providers not offering $50 unlimited min/data/txt by the end of the year.
I hope that is the case... ATT is doing it to try and help cure some network traffic issues. Obviously the answer is to penalize new customers instead of actually improving the network...
I like ATT's network, especially being able to use voice and data at the same time, and I dont have any issues with network traffic where I live, but damn this is a shitty tactic for them to take...
But on the other hand, like I had said, I dont see this plan sticking around for them. I dont think Apple will stand for it, and I dont think that the customers will stand for it.
Oh, another thing... ATT is FINALLY going to allow you to tether on their network :woot:
But you are capped at 2 gigs of data/month, combined tethering and phone data :rolleyes: .
slim8605
06-02-2010, 09:11 AM
Oh, and yeah, if Apple doesnt find someone else to carry the iPhone ASAP, then ATT may have just solidified Android as the victor :crap:
I thought they still had Verizon picking them up soon? Or did that change?
ngsm13
06-02-2010, 09:12 AM
Yup.
nG
Porch Monkey
06-02-2010, 09:13 AM
and I was about to upgrade
I thought they still had Verizon picking them up soon? Or did that change?
That has always been just a rumor, never once been solidified.
If Apple does leave ATT, then vzw might be able to pick up the iphone, BUT, vzw is going to have to stop trying to play god and have all the control over the device...
Outside of vzw, I really dont know who else the iphone could go to... I couldnt see it on Sprint, t-mo isnt nationwide, And I dunno who else...
ngsm13
06-02-2010, 09:53 AM
The iPhone won't go exclusive with another carrier, though it is inevitable that ATT will lose exclusivity eventually...
nG
The iPhone won't go exclusive with another carrier, though it is inevitable that ATT will lose exclusivity eventually...
nG
This, although I am almost willing to bet that with this current change in plans, it might happen sooner rather than later.
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 10:54 AM
new data plans suck monkey balls.
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 10:55 AM
i hope they change mine so i can get out of my contract and get a evo with sprint. yes i said it.
Spider Monkey
06-02-2010, 10:58 AM
new data plans suck monkey balls.
You know about sucking monkey balls?
jesus
06-02-2010, 11:03 AM
That's Incredible. HTC that is.
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 11:03 AM
shhh dont tell everyone bb.
Porch Monkey
06-02-2010, 11:03 AM
you can touch me anytime bb
i hope they change mine so i can get out of my contract and get a evo with sprint. yes i said it.
How would that get you out of your contract?
You can get out of it anytime you want, for the low low cost of $175 :fyi:
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 11:11 AM
yeah but if they make us change our current data plan they would be changing our contract and we can get out of it without paying the ETF.
yeah but if they make us change our current data plan they would be changing our contract and we can get out of it without paying the ETF.
They arent changing our contract broski, read the article.
I am mostly curious to see how long this last, whether apple will tell att to fuck off, and the other reactions to this... Apples conference thingy is in a few days, and I am sure that this topic will come up, I think that ATT will seal its own fate if they keep these new plans...
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 11:15 AM
They arent changing our contract broski, read the article.
I am mostly curious to see how long this last, whether apple will tell att to fuck off, and the other reactions to this... Apples conference thingy is in a few days, and I am sure that this topic will come up, I think that ATT will seal its own fate if they keep these new plans...
HAHAHA, i read up to just before where it states "Current AT&T subscribers will be allowed to keep the unlimited plan, even if they renew their contracts. But all new subscribers will have to choose one of the two new plans." lolz
2 gigs is a decent bit, just looked and it looks like I am using less than 1 gig per month, but still, for media hungry devices, I would rather be unlimited and not have to worry about it...
fbi90909
06-02-2010, 11:23 AM
Hm. I could see how the data plan change may help a little as how the majority of people when using data are connected to a wifi spot since wifi is pretty much everywhere you go. Too bad this doesn't help family plans. It would be nice to have 3 iPhones and not have to have 90 bucks added on the plan just for data. If they would be kind and single it to one data plan for all phones it would be a big improvment.
Never really cared for tethering. Maybe if I had a carputer of some sort and used it for that but I don't and will never get a laptop so it doesn't matter.
The cool thing, Monday will be the preview of the next iPhone!!
Hm. I could see how the data plan change may help a little as how the majority of people when using data are connected to a wifi spot since wifi is pretty much everywhere you go. Too bad this doesn't help family plans. It would be nice to have 3 iPhones and not have to have 90 bucks added on the plan just for data. If they would be kind and single it to one data plan for all phones it would be a big improvment.
Never really cared for tethering. Maybe if I had a carputer of some sort and used it for that but I have and will never get a laptop so it doesn't matter.
The cool thing, Monday will be the preview of the next iPhone!!
Too bad wifi kills the battery faster... And is hardly everywhere you go... That is the entire appeal behind the smart phones, is that you can look up whatever you want ANYWHERE, not kinda/sorta/not quite anywhere. I dont have wifi while in a car going down the highway... Dont have wifi in all hotels (at least not for free)... Dont have wifi in the grocery stores, dont have wifi at most stores, dont have it at a lot of places...
It would be cool if they singles the data plan like you said, but ATT seems to be going the other way :crap:
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 11:29 AM
bro, i use like 3 gigs a month :crap:
WTF are you doing??????????????
fbi90909
06-02-2010, 11:32 AM
Ehhhhhhhhh I am to believe wifi consumes less power and boast a faster internet than using the 3G network.
At least I've noticed this on my phone.
fbi90909
06-02-2010, 11:34 AM
WTF are you doing??????????????
Pandora can take up a lot of data. I use pandora in the car just about all the time now.
fbi90909
06-02-2010, 11:39 AM
http://www.apple.com/batteries/iphone.html
Turn off Wi-Fi: If you rarely use Wi-Fi, you can turn it off to save power. Go to Settings > Wi-Fi and set Wi-Fi to Off. Note that if you frequently use your iPhone to browse the web, battery life may be improved by using Wi-Fi instead of cellular data networks.
jesus
06-02-2010, 11:49 AM
Ehhhhhhhhh I am to believe wifi consumes less power and boast a faster internet than using the 3G network.
At least I've noticed this on my phone.
Agreed. It almost seems like when I'm downloading on 3G that I can just watch my battery bar drop.
J31Bro
06-02-2010, 11:53 AM
Oh, and yeah, if Apple doesnt find someone else to carry the iPhone ASAP, then ATT may have just solidified Android as the victor :crap:
:cork:
http://www.apple.com/batteries/iphone.html
Look right before what you posted...
Turn off Wi-Fi: If you rarely use Wi-Fi, you can turn it off to save power
If you leave the wifi turned on, it drains the battery, because the phoen is CONSTANTLY looking for a new wifi signal... Even when it is connected, and the phone is in standby, it is looking for new signals. Turn wifi on if it is available and you are going to use data, turn it off if you are not near a wifi signal.
I wasnt disputing that dl-ing over wifi consumes less power, but that turning wifi on in general consumes more power.
And as far as what is faster, 3g vs wifi, depends on the wifi spot tbh. I have noticed that my 3g is consistently faster than most wifi's, and connectivity is more stable. But that is all an IMO statement.
ngsm13
06-02-2010, 12:23 PM
If you're only Wifi that isn't faster than 3G... then your wifi sucks balls. lel.
nG
I am not disputing that...
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 12:51 PM
WTF are you doing??????????????
downloading shit? :fap:
jesus
06-02-2010, 12:59 PM
I think I average like 300MB's a month.
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 12:59 PM
wtf fags, dont you bitches use your gd iphones?
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 12:59 PM
my usage is probably so high because i dont have interwebz at home though :crap:
Spider Monkey
06-02-2010, 01:00 PM
wtf fags, dont you bitches use your gd iphones?
I do. But I don't pay the bill, so I don't give a shit.
jesus
06-02-2010, 01:00 PM
wtf fags, dont you bitches use your gd iphones?
I don't leave my house bro.
jesus
06-02-2010, 01:00 PM
It's more of a shitter tool for me than anything else. Me and teh wife share 450 minutes/month and I have over 3,000 rollover minutes.
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 01:03 PM
I do. But I don't pay the bill, so I don't give a shit.
baller type shit and shit.
I don't leave my house bro.
lolz
It's more of a shitter tool for me than anything else. Me and teh wife share 450 minutes/month and I have over 3,000 rollover minutes.
bro, use your phone bro.
ngsm13
06-02-2010, 01:04 PM
Ever since I customized the A-list for our 5-phone family share plan, we went from using ~1900 minutes a month to ~1100 minutes a month...
Thinking about getting the plan downgraded to the 1400minute plan, especially since we have nearly 6,000 rollover minutes banked up...
nG
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 01:07 PM
Ever since I customized the A-list for our 5-phone family share plan, we went from using ~1900 minutes a month to ~1100 minutes a month...
Thinking about getting the plan downgraded to the 1400minute plan, especially since we have nearly 6,000 rollover minutes banked up...
nG
i have that plan, if you know how to use your A-List that is all you really need.
jesus
06-02-2010, 01:08 PM
Ever since I customized the A-list for our 5-phone family share plan, we went from using ~1900 minutes a month to ~1100 minutes a month...
Thinking about getting the plan downgraded to the 1400minute plan, especially since we have nearly 6,000 rollover minutes banked up...
nG
You will lose all of your rollover minutes except for how many monthly minutes you downgrade to.
Therefore if you have 6k rollover minutes but downgrade your plan to 1400 minutes a month, they will delete all of your rollover minutes except for 1400.
You will lose all of your rollover minutes except for how many monthly minutes you downgrade to.
Therefore if you have 6k rollover minutes but downgrade your plan to 1400 minutes a month, they will delete all of your rollover minutes except for 1400.
Not if you call them and tell them not to do that shit...
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 01:10 PM
You will lose all of your rollover minutes except for how many monthly minutes you downgrade to.
Therefore if you have 6k rollover minutes but downgrade your plan to 1400 minutes a month, they will delete all of your rollover minutes except for 1400.
ok Mr. AT&T.
jesus
06-02-2010, 01:10 PM
Not if you call them and tell them not to do that shit...
Happened to me when I added teh wife's iPhone to my plan. Had nearly 4k rollover minutes, they deleted all but 450 of them. I called them back and they gave me back 1,000 for being a valued customer. They claim it's to keep people from taking advantage of rollover minutes.
jesus
06-02-2010, 01:10 PM
fuck yo AT&T
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 01:10 PM
Not if you call them and tell them not to do that shit...
bro, i know a bitch that used to work for AT&T and she told me to call and bitch about shit and they will give you credits towards your account, some type of policy that they have. lol
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 01:12 PM
Happened to me when I added teh wife's iPhone to my plan. Had nearly 4k rollover minutes, they deleted all but 450 of them. I called them back and they gave me back 1,000 for being a valued customer. They claim it's to keep people from taking advantage of rollover minutes.
fuck yo AT&T
you dont knwo the history!
Happened to me when I added teh wife's iPhone to my plan. Had nearly 4k rollover minutes, they deleted all but 450 of them. I called them back and they gave me back 1,000 for being a valued customer. They claim it's to keep people from taking advantage of rollover minutes.
When I reduced my plan, they told me they would let me keep all of the 4k rolloever minutes. :shrug:
bro, i know a bitch that used to work for AT&T and she told me to call and bitch about shit and they will give you credits towards your account, some type of policy that they have. lol
This. I once called bitching because I thought my bill was screwed up, they asked me how much I thought it should be, changed the amount to that, and everyone was happy. I later realized that the amount was actually correct.
Their CS is topnotch.
ngsm13
06-02-2010, 01:17 PM
Their in-store CS blows dicks...
nG
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 01:17 PM
no doubt. they pretty much have to do whatever to make the customer happy, so she says. :wat:
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 01:17 PM
Their in-store CS blows dicks...
nG
bro, really bro?
no doubt. they pretty much have to do whatever to make the customer happy, so she says. :wat:
Probably just because they cant afford to lose any customers...
jesus
06-02-2010, 01:21 PM
When I reduced my plan, they told me they would let me keep all of the 4k rolloever minutes. :shrug:
Obvious hossage is obvious. They knew man, they knew.
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 01:22 PM
Obvious hossage is obvious. They knew man, they knew.
drugs are bad.
fbi90909
06-02-2010, 01:27 PM
Att sucks for cs. They Fucked me 300 bucks for when I shut off a home line that i had tied into the cell account. They double charged me and claim that it wasn't yet all my online payments show everything was payed off and on to date. And when I went to show the bitch I had everything up to date they cut me off access to all my account history and made me pay for the shit.
Fuck their cs.
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 01:28 PM
Att sucks for cs. They Fucked me 300 bucks for when I shut off a home line that i had tied into the cell account. They double charged me and claim that it wasn't yet all my online payments show everything was payed off and on to date. And when I went to show the bitch I had everything up to date they cut me off access to all my account history and made me pay for the shit.
Fuck their cs.
:hahaha: thats funny.
Att sucks for cs. They Fucked me 300 bucks for when I shut off a home line that i had tied into the cell account. They double charged me and claim that it wasn't yet all my online payments show everything was payed off and on to date. And when I went to show the bitch I had everything up to date they cut me off access to all my account history and made me pay for the shit.
Fuck their cs.
:troll:
atoz350
06-02-2010, 02:48 PM
This is terrible. Steve Jobs in a recent interview expressed how unhappy he was with AT&T, and hinted that the iPhone may be on other carriers, but no time soon. AT&T is evil for this, because they made this policy change just after Apple signed another 5-year exclusivity deal.
I used to work for AT&T, and I saw how bad they were then....Just sayin.
I believe it's time for Apple to try what Google failed at.
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 02:51 PM
This is terrible. Steve Jobs in a recent interview expressed how unhappy he was with AT&T, and hinted that the iPhone may be on other carriers, but no time soon. AT&T is evil for this, because they made this policy change just after Apple signed another 5-year exclusivity deal.
I used to work for AT&T, and I saw how bad they were then....Just sayin.
I believe it's time for Apple to try what Google failed at.
bro they already have the iphone bro.
Spider Monkey
06-02-2010, 02:52 PM
This is terrible. Steve Jobs in a recent interview expressed how unhappy he was with AT&T, and hinted that the iPhone may be on other carriers, but no time soon. AT&T is evil for this, because they made this policy change just after Apple signed another 5-year exclusivity deal.
I used to work for AT&T, and I saw how bad they were then....Just sayin.
I believe it's time for Apple to try what Google failed at.
What's that? Make an Android phone that people like?
OH SNAPS!
I wonder if Apple included any clause in the exclusivity agreement stating that data rate changes like this would void the deal...
OR, what would be an even better FU to ATT, would be if apple introduced the new iphone named as something else, and dumped a complete pos on ATT :laugh:
That would be epic.
Spider Monkey
06-02-2010, 02:54 PM
I wonder if Apple included any clause in the exclusivity agreement stating that data rate changes like this would void the deal...
OR, what would be an even better FU to ATT, would be if apple introduced the new iphone named as something else, and dumped a complete pos on ATT :laugh:
That would be epic.
Not really. I like ATT.
I like em too, but am not that attached to them...
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 02:55 PM
I wonder if Apple included any clause in the exclusivity agreement stating that data rate changes like this would void the deal...
OR, what would be an even better FU to ATT, would be if apple introduced the new iphone named as something else, and dumped a complete pos on ATT :laugh:
That would be epic.
:hahaha: epic indeed.
Not really. I like ATT.
bro, you also live in ca...... imjustsayin'
Spider Monkey
06-02-2010, 02:58 PM
I like em too, but am not that attached to them...
I am. :crap: I suppose I could move to Verizon but that would just suck....
bro, you also live in ca...... imjustsayin'
Yea, where shit works.
I am. :crap: I suppose I could move to Verizon but that would just suck...
I am currently looking at Sprint, just in case the armegeddon comes...
atoz350
06-02-2010, 03:00 PM
bro they already have the iphone bro.
What's that? Make an Android phone that people like?
OH SNAPS!
You both failed, as there was no troll in my post. I was talking about opening the phone to all carriers and offering a no contract subsidized method of purchasing the phone.
You both failed, as there was no troll in my post. I was talking about opening the phone to all carriers and offering a no contract subsidized method of purchasing the phone.
That would be ballin, be just like the Nexus1, except for all carriers.
Spider Monkey
06-02-2010, 03:02 PM
I am currently looking at Sprint, just in case the armegeddon comes...
I could never go to Sprint. My peeps rely on their phones to work and not drop calls.
Spider Monkey
06-02-2010, 03:03 PM
You both failed, as there was no troll in my post. I was talking about opening the phone to all carriers and offering a no contract subsidized method of purchasing the phone.
Failed at what? I wasn't trying to accomplish anything.
atoz350
06-02-2010, 03:03 PM
And there are plenty of Android phones that people like. Hence the reason Android outsold the iPhone this year.
I have never had sprint, and havent looked into it too hard yet...
their coverage map around me seems pretty solid, I should probably dig a little more first though... I know that nextel blows sack, but I think sprint is on a different network than nextel...
I know I dont want VZW though, they SUCK... Decent service, horrible customer skills. They have already run me away from themselves twice...
atoz350
06-02-2010, 03:04 PM
That would be ballin, be just like the Nexus1, except for all carriers.
That was the plan...and they failed, due to HTC making ballin' ass phones.
Spider Monkey
06-02-2010, 03:05 PM
I have never had sprint, and havent looked into it too hard yet...
their coverage map around me seems pretty solid, I should probably dig a little more first though... I know that nextel blows sack, but I think sprint is on a different network than nextel...
I know I dont want VZW though, they SUCK... Decent service, horrible customer skills. They have already run me away from themselves twice...
lol wat
Nextel is owned by sprint, but is not the same as sprint...
Once sprint bought nextel, they just kind of shoved them in the corner and are still waiting for that brand to die...
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 03:08 PM
I am currently looking at Sprint, just in case the armegeddon comes...
bro, me too bro. evo :fap:
I could never go to Sprint. My peeps rely on their phones to work and not drop calls.
guess shit dont work? lol
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 03:09 PM
Nextel is owned by sprint, but is not the same as sprint...
Once sprint bought nextel, they just kind of shoved them in the corner and are still waiting for that brand to die...
sprint > nextel.
Spider Monkey
06-02-2010, 03:09 PM
I thought they ran on the same tech though.
I wonder why they bought them to kill them. That's usually what a power player does. I mean, is NASCAR really worth that much?
atoz350
06-02-2010, 03:09 PM
I have never had sprint, and havent looked into it too hard yet...
their coverage map around me seems pretty solid, I should probably dig a little more first though... I know that nextel blows sack, but I think sprint is on a different network than nextel...
I know I dont want VZW though, they SUCK... Decent service, horrible customer skills. They have already run me away from themselves twice...
Same thing happened to me!!
Sprint is on a different network than Nextel. Their coverage map is actually bigger than Verizon's since they acquired Nextel. They also have the most reliable 3G network in the business. And their speed is almost double that of Verizon's. The only thing is that they are limited in the amount of data that they can push, meaning OTA updates simply don't exist. Since I've been with them, I've yet to experience a dropped call, throughout the US except for Indiana. Nothing works in Indiana.
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 03:14 PM
bro, 3g on sprint is fast as balls.
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 03:14 PM
i think the cap 3g usage though, even on unlimited plans.
Spider Monkey
06-02-2010, 03:14 PM
Same thing happened to me!!
Sprint is on a different network than Nextel. Their coverage map is actually bigger than Verizon's since they acquired Nextel. They also have the most reliable 3G network in the business. And their speed is almost double that of Verizon's. The only thing is that they are limited in the amount of data that they can push, meaning OTA updates simply don't exist. Since I've been with them, I've yet to experience a dropped call, throughout the US except for Indiana. Nothing works in Indiana.
That's not what I've experienced. Must be a midwest thing.
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 03:15 PM
I thought they ran on the same tech though.
I wonder why they bought them to kill them. That's usually what a power player does. I mean, is NASCAR really worth that much?
bro, really bro? unban me from that other thread now lol :crap:
Spider Monkey
06-02-2010, 03:15 PM
bro, 3g on sprint is fast as balls.
I don't use 3G. There is no point.
Spider Monkey
06-02-2010, 03:15 PM
bro, really bro? unban me from that other thread now lol :crap:
lel
Which one did I do it in?
bro, me too bro. evo
Shhhh, atoz will hear you...
I thought they ran on the same tech though.
I wonder why they bought them to kill them. That's usually what a power player does. I mean, is NASCAR really worth that much?
Hardly, nextel is like a little bitch step child. I dunno why they bought them. If they were gonna kill it off, they should have done it by now...
Who knows, it might be a cash cow for the construction industry :shrug: . Between nextel and boost mobile (same networks, boost is pay per use) I think they still make some money...
i think the cap 3g usage though, even on unlimited plans.
This, is not what I want to hear...
atoz350
06-02-2010, 03:21 PM
This, is not what I want to hear...
It's 5gb. I was told that I have exceeded it for the month, but I called Sprint for it. They told me not to worry, because my plan is unlimited. The problem is Sprint's CS is dumb as hell, so it's easy to get over on them.
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 03:21 PM
i think its like 5GB per month and if you exceed that they can slow you down or terminate your contract bro. atoz might be able to clear this up though.
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 03:22 PM
It's 5gb. I was told that I have exceeded it for the month, but I called Sprint for it. They told me not to worry, because my plan is unlimited. The problem is Sprint's CS is dumb as hell, so it's easy to get over on them.
yes, their CSR's are dumb lol
atoz350
06-02-2010, 03:23 PM
That's not what I've experienced. Must be a midwest thing.
But it works everywhere except the midwest. (Indiana)
Hmmmm.... I still just dunno about that...
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 03:24 PM
Hmmmm.... I still just dunno about that...
bro, you'll never use 5GB a month.... not on a cell phone, did you just say you use about 300MB a month on your iPhone?
bro, you'll never use 5GB a month.... not on a cell phone, did you just say you use about 300MB a month on your iPhone?
Evo works as a wifi hotspot bro. Could make it easy to exceed 5gigs.
atoz350
06-02-2010, 03:26 PM
I exceeded it by using it to stream Youtube when my Comcast was down. (moving) I also stream internet radio and Pandora when I'm in the car. I think they just slow you down, but It really hasn't affected me at all.
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 03:27 PM
Evo works as a wifi hotspot bro. Could make it easy to exceed 5gigs.
oh yar, i forgot tis.
atoz350
06-02-2010, 03:28 PM
My Hero works as a WiFi Hotspot too.
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 03:29 PM
fuck yo hero.
atoz350
06-02-2010, 03:32 PM
Fuck yo Angel.
atoz350
06-02-2010, 03:32 PM
wait, wut?
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 03:36 PM
:eek:
ngsm13
06-02-2010, 03:39 PM
My Nexus One works as a wifi hotspot too... (FROYO BITCHES)...
nG
wtf fags, dont you bitches use your gd iphones?
Some of us don't have 20 cousins in Caracas to call.
And hero works as a wifi hot spot too?
atoz350
06-02-2010, 03:42 PM
WTF is froyo?
Android 2.2.
atoz350
06-02-2010, 03:43 PM
And hero works as a wifi hot spot too?
Yep.
Android 2.2.
Yep.
So every device with android 2.2 has froyo and can do a wifi hot spot?
Are the devices specific to what level of android os they can run? Or can they all be upgraded as the new updates are released?
atoz350
06-02-2010, 03:52 PM
So every device with android 2.2 has froyo and can do a wifi hot spot?
Are the devices specific to what level of android os they can run? Or can they all be upgraded as the new updates are released?
In the beginning there was a problem with OS fragmentation. Google is aiming to fix that now, offering the same OS on all devices. My Hero is running "Eclair" (Android 2.1), not "Froyo" (Android 2.2) The WiFi tethering feature is something I and a few other developers have been working on since Android 1.5 or "Cupcake". Google has now decided to integrate it into the OS.
The updates are sadly at the mercy of the carriers. Sprint seems to be the slowest at releasing updates. All android phones can run all versions of android. Some, though, with limited features.
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 03:53 PM
Some of us don't have 20 cousins in Caracas to call.
neither do I.
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 03:53 PM
In the beginning there was a problem with OS fragmentation. Google is aiming to fix that now, offering the same OS on all devices. My Hero is running "Eclair" (Android 2.1), not "Froyo" (Android 2.2) The WiFi tethering feature is something I and a few other developers have been working on since Android 1.5 or "Cupcake". Google has now decided to integrate it into the OS.
The updates are sadly at the mercy of the carriers. Sprint seems to be the slowest at releasing updates. All android phones can run all versions of android. Some, though, with limited features.
bro, whats up with all the gay names lol
atoz350
06-02-2010, 03:57 PM
bro, whats up with all the gay names lol
They use desserts as names. It's a Linux thing.
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 03:59 PM
so did sprint ever release an update for the hero or did you force yours?
atoz350
06-02-2010, 04:00 PM
so did sprint ever release an update for the hero or did you force yours?
I'm using my own. Sprint did release one, but no one seems to care now.
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 04:01 PM
sprints mad homo with updates.
atoz350
06-02-2010, 04:01 PM
The EVO 4G has already been rooted. The exploit was discovered last week sometime. That means custom ROMs galore. I've already been working on a few.
John3000
06-02-2010, 04:17 PM
I have never had sprint, and havent looked into it too hard yet...
their coverage map around me seems pretty solid, I should probably dig a little more first though... I know that nextel blows sack, but I think sprint is on a different network than nextel...
I know I dont want VZW though, they SUCK... Decent service, horrible customer skills. They have already run me away from themselves twice...
I had Nextel before and after Sprint purchased them. I actually used the direct connect for work and a lot of my friends had them as well. When Spring came into the picture its like they shitted on Nextel direct connect phones and call quality went straight to hell. I left and went to Verizon :mad:, they suck balls and I will be leaving them on the 4th (EVO).
Nextel is owned by sprint, but is not the same as sprint...
Once sprint bought nextel, they just kind of shoved them in the corner and are still waiting for that brand to die...
This.
The EVO 4G has already been rooted. The exploit was discovered last week sometime. That means custom ROMs galore. I've already been working on a few.
Can't wait.
darthvibrator
06-02-2010, 04:17 PM
well that stopped me from wanting an iphone...at least on att
_AnGeL_
06-02-2010, 04:20 PM
you dont know the history bro!
John3000
06-02-2010, 04:21 PM
Always wanted one, hell a good smart phone period. But I am a cheap bastard and if I'm not going to pay $30 a month for data on myself, I sure as hell wasn't going to do it for the wife. Sprint came to the rescue with their all inclusive plans.
In the beginning there was a problem with OS fragmentation. Google is aiming to fix that now, offering the same OS on all devices. My Hero is running "Eclair" (Android 2.1), not "Froyo" (Android 2.2) The WiFi tethering feature is something I and a few other developers have been working on since Android 1.5 or "Cupcake". Google has now decided to integrate it into the OS.
The updates are sadly at the mercy of the carriers. Sprint seems to be the slowest at releasing updates. All android phones can run all versions of android. Some, though, with limited features.
So wait, I am confused... It is up to the carrier to release the OS updates? And some of the carriers limit the features?
I thought that was the whole appeal of android, that it was open and no restrictions were placed anywhere... Why dont they just make the updates available in the marketplace and cut the carriers out of it?
Also, when I say/read "3g/4g wifi hotspot" I am right in assuming that I can use it as a wireless hub for x number of computers, amirite? Like I could use it in my house to supply my laptop and htpc with internets, and I wouldnt need a router or anything, the phone can send/recieve the internets?
And also, if someone who was completely computer stupid got an android fone, are they gonna have to go hacking it to get these custom roms or whatever you are talking about? Starting to sound like to really make an android phone usable, you have to hack into it and do shit...
jesus
06-02-2010, 05:33 PM
So wait, I am confused... It is up to the carrier to release the OS updates? And some of the carriers limit the features?
I thought that was the whole appeal of android, that it was open and no restrictions were placed anywhere... Why dont they just make the updates available in the marketplace and cut the carriers out of it?
Also, when I say/read "3g/4g wifi hotspot" I am right in assuming that I can use it as a wireless hub for x number of computers, amirite? Like I could use it in my house to supply my laptop and htpc with internets, and I wouldnt need a router or anything, the phone can send/recieve the internets?
And also, if someone who was completely computer stupid got an android fone, are they gonna have to go hacking it to get these custom roms or whatever you are talking about? Starting to sound like to really make an android phone usable, you have to hack into it and do shit...
Like I said before:
The iPhone excited the world. Android excites nerds.
o. l. t.
06-02-2010, 05:44 PM
This is a non issue for me.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5/audiogodz1/Screenshot2010-06-02at64216PM.png
atoz350
06-02-2010, 05:53 PM
So wait, I am confused... It is up to the carrier to release the OS updates? And some of the carriers limit the features?
I thought that was the whole appeal of android, that it was open and no restrictions were placed anywhere... Why dont they just make the updates available in the marketplace and cut the carriers out of it?
The carriers always want to put their shit into it. No matter what phone you have. Google's ASOP is open with no restrictions. Meaning anyone can put into it what they want. The full google experience offers updates directly from Google. That's what the Nexus One was all about. No carrier restrictions.
Also, when I say/read "3g/4g wifi hotspot" I am right in assuming that I can use it as a wireless hub for x number of computers, amirite? Like I could use it in my house to supply my laptop and htpc with internets, and I wouldnt need a router or anything, the phone can send/recieve the internets?
Correct. However, the range is rather limited. I mean, it is a cell phone after all. You're probably going to need some sort of access point to get it to supply internet to your whole house.
And also, if someone who was completely computer stupid got an android fone, are they gonna have to go hacking it to get these custom roms or whatever you are talking about? Starting to sound like to really make an android phone usable, you have to hack into it and do shit...
Not true at all. All of the features are available with the stock ROM. I simply made a 2.1 ROM for my phone before it was available. It doesn't need to be hacked to get full use from it.
atoz350
06-02-2010, 05:54 PM
Like I said before:
The iPhone excited the world. Android excites nerds.
No matter how many times you say it, it'll never catch on.
This is a non issue for me.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5/audiogodz1/Screenshot2010-06-02at64216PM.png
I wish I had that much time on my hands.
o. l. t.
06-02-2010, 06:00 PM
I wish I had that much time on my hands.
That........ really doesn't make sense.
atoz350
06-02-2010, 06:04 PM
That........ really doesn't make sense.
Neither did posting a graph tracking your data usage over the last few months. A simple "Doesn't affect me" would have sufficed.
So how do I make it so my droid can supply my laptop with the interwebs yo!
o. l. t.
06-02-2010, 06:07 PM
Neither did posting a graph tracking your data usage over the last few months. A simple "Doesn't affect me" would have sufficed.
Fail on your part.
atoz350
06-02-2010, 06:08 PM
So how do I make it so my droid can supply my laptop with the interwebs yo!
Download Wireless Tether from the market. WiFi Tether is the one we've been working on. It's more reliable, but requires root access.
atoz350
06-02-2010, 06:08 PM
Fail on your part.
Not my post. You should follow the thread.
Download Wireless Tether from the market. WiFi Tether is the one we've been working on. It's more reliable, but requires root access.
Bro it says **prerequisite**
1) root
2) netfilter-enabled kernal
What dat mean, I just got stock droid :wat:
atoz350
06-02-2010, 06:13 PM
Bro it says **prerequisite**
1) root
2) netfilter-enabled kernal
What dat mean, I just got stock droid :wat:
Well you have #2, but yeah...it needs root.
You gotta jailbreak it, yo.
jesus
06-02-2010, 06:13 PM
Bro it says **prerequisite**
1) root
2) netfilter-enabled kernal
What dat mean, I just got stock droid :wat:
More proof that an out-of-the-box Android phone is no better than an out-of-the-box iPhone.
atoz350
06-02-2010, 06:15 PM
You have the Motorola Droid?
If my co-worker could root his, I'm sure you can.It's not a projector, after all. I'll look up the method he used.
atoz350
06-02-2010, 06:16 PM
More proof that an out-of-the-box Android phone is no better than an out-of-the-box iPhone.
Yeah it is. The EVO has it enabled stock.
atoz350
06-02-2010, 06:20 PM
Yea check into it yo!
What software version are you running? You can find out by going into Settings<About phone<Software information. It'll be under Firmware version.
atoz350
06-02-2010, 06:27 PM
Try this to get the custom recovery:
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/04/13/video-flashing-sprecovery-sbf-to-stock-2-1/
Then try this:
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/04/14/video-installing-a-custom-rom-using-sprecovery/
John3000
06-02-2010, 06:29 PM
--------------->Will be blowing up Atoz's pm box when EVO arrives
So if I were to mess up would I like ruin my phone or could I always return it to the way it was?
Hmmm, not sounding promising... I want something out of the box, no haxoring needed...
Closest to that sounds like the nexus one, since the carrier isn't restricting anything. I don't want to have to spend tons of time setting any crap up or hacking into something just to get all the features. Evo was looking promising, but the data cap and what you are saying about sprint and os updates doesn't sound great...
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MR.Crunk
06-02-2010, 06:47 PM
last 5 months for me
184 MB
184 MB
134 MB
219 MB
184 MB
John3000
06-02-2010, 06:50 PM
I know what you mean, but now a days you pretty much have to hack these phones. Sprint is no doubt going to insert their programs into the OS because they want you to pay for tethering and mobile hotspot etc etc etc. Hell the EVO will be trumped by the next wonder phone coming out soon to one of the other carriers.
Two reasons I am getting an EVO 1. Sprints all inclusive packages. 2. Since I am going to be a new customer I might as well get the newest toy they have to offer and be stuck with it for 2 years.
So with sprint I would have to pay more for tethering/mobile hot spot? Wouldn't that be a contradiction to the all inclusive pricing?
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tapout
06-02-2010, 07:05 PM
And there are plenty of Android phones that people like. Hence the reason Android outsold the iPhone this year.
Not reading past this post....
This argument is invalid.
Pick ONE android based phone and show me where it sold more units than the iphone in any quarter. If you find it I give you $10. If not you take 24 hours off.
Deal?
John3000
06-02-2010, 07:05 PM
Yes, you have to pay for mobile hot spot which is $30 bucks. New Spring slogan "Yeah it comes with the phone but that shit ain't free".
jesus
06-02-2010, 07:08 PM
Not reading past this post....
This argument is invalid.
Pick ONE android based phone and show me where it sold more units than the iphone in any quarter. If you find it I give you $10. If not you take 24 hours off.
Deal?
DOIT!
Not reading past this post....
This argument is invalid.
Pick ONE android based phone and show me where it sold more units than the iphone in any quarter. If you find it I give you $10. If not you take 24 hours off.
Deal?
:laugh:
plus one when the internets turn themselves back on here...
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Yes, you have to pay for mobile hot spot which is $30 bucks. New Spring slogan "Yeah it comes with the phone but that shit ain't free".
Oh that's the gayness... That was one of the few things that intrigued me about the phone...
Starting to sound more and more like I should just wait for the new iPhone to come out. Sounds like the ONLY android based phone that is open like they claim is the nexus...
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Ok, this are confusing...
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/hoss4131/cdf1bf74.jpg
is it saying some devices can be used as a mobile hotspot and all can tether? Or is it saying that they can all be mobile hot spots if they are tethered? :confused:
and WTF is there a mac pictured for the wifi computer? :laugh:
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John3000
06-02-2010, 07:49 PM
That shit made my head hurt. I think they are trying to say you can use it for a mobile hotspot or tether if you like......which makes no sense what so ever, why the hell would I tether if I can use the hotspot?
John3000
06-02-2010, 07:53 PM
Oh that's the gayness... That was one of the few things that intrigued me about the phone...
Starting to sound more and more like I should just wait for the new iPhone to come out. Sounds like the ONLY android based phone that is open like they claim is the nexus...
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I am hoping with some tinkering I can use those features for free, if not then oh wellz.
If I had to do any tinkering, I wouldn't bother... Hopefully the android jb is different than the iPhone jb, but either way I just want somehing simple and that works.
I like my un-jb iPhone, did not like it jailbroken... I would take a new iPhone over an android phone after what I have learned itt. At the very least, it sounds like I could get a new iPhone and cl it to get a nexus...
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jesus
06-02-2010, 08:18 PM
Has no one ever tethered their iPhone before? It's not hard.
MR.Crunk
06-02-2010, 08:19 PM
Has no one ever tethered their iPhone before?
i use MYWI at work to tether over bluetooth to a computer thats not on the network so they cant monitor me :) also used it at the Hilton cause they wanted $15 a day for wifi.
Has no one ever tethered their iPhone before? It's not hard.
To my knowledge, there has not been a single iPhone that hasn't been jailbroken and tethered. Yet.
Re-read my post. I don't want to fuck with any of that shit. If it can't do more than the iPhone out of the box, I will stick with iPhone... So far, only the nexus seems to be capable...
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I mean, no troll here, but it for real sounds like they should change the slogan to "droid does, but none of the cell providers will allow you to..."
It isnt much different from the iphone, someone is still throttling what the OS is capable of...
atoz350
06-02-2010, 10:56 PM
So if I were to mess up would I like ruin my phone or could I always return it to the way it was?
I know with Sprint, you can just return it. You can say you ran the recent update, and it messed up your phone. They will have to take it back and give you a new one.
Hmmm, not sounding promising... I want something out of the box, no haxoring needed...
Closest to that sounds like the nexus one, since the carrier isn't restricting anything. I don't want to have to spend tons of time setting any crap up or hacking into something just to get all the features. Evo was looking promising, but the data cap and what you are saying about sprint and os updates doesn't sound great...
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Google is fixing the update issue. They've already warned Sprint from the whole Hero debacle. The whole 5gb data thing has never shown it's effect.
So with sprint I would have to pay more for tethering/mobile hot spot? Wouldn't that be a contradiction to the all inclusive pricing?
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No, you don't. You pay more for the 4g service. The EVO 4G also removes that 5gb data cap that you are so worried about. Sprint doesn't charge to use features already included in the OS. Verizon will, however.
Yes, you have to pay for mobile hot spot which is $30 bucks. New Spring slogan "Yeah it comes with the phone but that shit ain't free".
Not true.
Ok, this are confusing...
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/hoss4131/cdf1bf74.jpg
is it saying some devices can be used as a mobile hotspot and all can tether? Or is it saying that they can all be mobile hot spots if they are tethered? :confused:
and WTF is there a mac pictured for the wifi computer? :laugh:
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The picture is showing that you can USB tether with one computer, while transmitting wireless internet to another computer. It's showing that the phone is capable of giving internet to multiple devices over different mediums all at the same time.
If I had to do any tinkering, I wouldn't bother... Hopefully the android jb is different than the iPhone jb, but either way I just want somehing simple and that works.
I like my un-jb iPhone, did not like it jailbroken... I would take a new iPhone over an android phone after what I have learned itt. At the very least, it sounds like I could get a new iPhone and cl it to get a nexus...
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It's all the same thing. Jailbreaking is just gaining root access to the Linux kernel on either a iPhone, or an Android phone. I did not experience any slowdowns or hiccups as a result of jailbreaking/rooting. You wouldn't need to do any of this to see all of the features of the phone, however.
To my knowledge, there has not been a single iPhone that hasn't been jailbroken and tethered. Yet.
Re-read my post. I don't want to fuck with any of that shit. If it can't do more than the iPhone out of the box, I will stick with iPhone... So far, only the nexus seems to be capable...
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The EVO 4g is far ahead of both the iPhone and the Nexus One. The Nexus is a great phone, but is:
a) only going to be offered on T-mobile or AT&T, but not both.
b) Lacks an accurate touchscreen. It still uses the same capacitive technology from my Hero, and almost the same resolution.
c) is still a test phone for Android software. Sure you'll get it first, but you also get to experience the most bugs.
In the end, Hoss, if the iPhone has made you happy thus far, then by all means stick with it. If you feel it's time to get rid of AT&T, look elsewhere. There are plenty of other devices with the same or more features.
tapout
06-03-2010, 06:36 AM
Not reading past this post....
This argument is invalid.
Pick ONE android based phone and show me where it sold more units than the iphone in any quarter. If you find it I give you $10. If not you take 24 hours off.
Deal?
guess thats a no.
dcmcki
06-03-2010, 07:30 AM
Not reading past this post....
This argument is invalid.
Pick ONE android based phone and show me where it sold more units than the iphone in any quarter. If you find it I give you $10. If not you take 24 hours off.
Deal?
guess thats a no.
:hahaha:
In the end, Hoss, if the iPhone has made you happy thus far, then by all means stick with it. If you feel it's time to get rid of AT&T, look elsewhere. There are plenty of other devices with the same or more features.
How much is Sprint going to charge for the 4g service?
I kinda want to play with something new, but it sounds like the only real option for a phone that can do it all is the nexus or the evo. But both of those seem to have their drawbacks...
The evo is more tempting just because of the cheaper service. But charging more for 4g is kinda bs IMO.
Also curious to see what Apple releases on Monday...
But even if they were to do something intriguing like making the iphone a wifi hotspot, I get the distinct impression that I would have to get rid of my unlimited data plan and switch to one of ATT's new shit data plans in order to turn it on :crap:
IamDeMan
06-03-2010, 07:36 AM
It's more of a shitter tool for me than anything else. Me and teh wife share 450 minutes/month and I have over 3,000 rollover minutes.
All I got is some crossword puzzles and Sudoku.
ngsm13
06-03-2010, 08:33 AM
Speaking of ATT being fags...
I've had my Nexus one for 1.5months. Two days before I got it, I went online and added "Unlimited Mobile Web" to my current 3G phone at that time. I have a family share plan, and this $10/month unlimited web was available. Got my N1, and I just popped in my SIM card and went about using it as normal.
I am not a heavy mobile web user at all. I used less than 200MB first billing cycle, and I'm on track to for the same this cycle. This morning I got an auto-text from ATT "Did you know a data plan is required for your Smartphone?" and it gives me a website to visit for details. I checked out my account and apparently it jacked me up to the $30/month unlimited plan.
WTF?!!!!!?!?!!?!?
I have an unlocked phone, I did not purchase from ATT, that data plan is not part of my contract, it still shows online that I have my old 3G flip phone on my account. ATT did not subsidize my phone purchase, yet they want to require this $30/month plan?
Not sure what I'm going to do, call them up and tell them to go fuck themselves. I'll let them know I'll cancel our TWO 5phone family plans, or at least this plan that has been with ATT for 6years... this has to void my one remaining line with the contract?
Fegs.
nG
They are pretty blatant about requiring that data plan with any smart phone dood... Search around on the nets, lots of pepole have tried to pull the wool over their eyes, and have failed...
If you are only using 200 mb/month, you should be able to fit into their smallest of the new data plans, although you would be tight...
If you call and complain, they might give you some credits, but you are going to be stuck with a for real data plan and not just the mobile web plan.
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 09:05 AM
no doubt your stuck with the $30 plan. my friend told me she used to get people calling all the time about that, people trying to pull a smart one... having a crappy phone getting the 10 dollar unlimited web and switching sims cards to a smart phone, but AT&T can tell what phone you are using, so she says....
ngsm13
06-03-2010, 09:11 AM
I definitely understand that, but I didn't purchase this phone from ATT via a Contract subsidy. Only reason I bought the N1 is because it is unlocked, and I can use it via another carrier when my contract is up in September...
Oh well. I just can't fucking wait until this last line is out of contract. Then all 10 phones on our two account will be terminated... :woot:
nG
ngsm13
06-03-2010, 09:14 AM
Also, looking at our account, there are two 3G flip phones that have the $10 unlimited mobile web... and one phone consistently uses 300-400MB/month while the other on uses ~150-200MB/month...
It just pisses me off that I'll be using the same amount, and have to pay 3times the price...
:fu:
nG
I definitely understand that, but I didn't purchase this phone from ATT via a Contract subsidy. Only reason I bought the N1 is because it is unlocked, and I can use it via another carrier when my contract is up in September...
Oh well. I just can't fucking wait until this last line is out of contract. Then all 10 phones on our two account will be terminated... :woot:
nG
It is in the TOS of using their network, not controlled by whether or not they subsidize the phone :shrug:. I also think that even teh nexus is carrier locked, I believe that if you want to go to another network, it requires a different version of the phone. ATT and t-mo are similar, but you might lose 3g compatability if you go to the t-mo network, just like with the iphone...
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 09:48 AM
It is in the TOS of using their network, not controlled by whether or not they subsidize the phone :shrug:. I also think that even teh nexus is carrier locked, I believe that if you want to go to another network, it requires a different version of the phone. ATT and t-mo are similar, but you might lose 3g compatability if you go to the t-mo network, just like with the iphone...
esto.
Well, this is a big turn off... http://jkontherun.com/2010/05/12/sprint-evo-4g-data-plan-pricing-revealed-not-too-shabby/
Extra $10/month for the evo, $30/month for mobile hot spot... $110/month for the cheapest plan with the hotspot feature... Not much different than what I would be paying on the ATT network... ATt would be $90/month for the cheapest plan. The sprint plan still seems to have more to offer though... But that additional fee for 4g and mobile hot spot kinda kills it...
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 10:03 AM
bro, im sure you can find away aroung the 30 dollar hotspot fee.
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 10:03 AM
i used to tether my instinct s30 without paying the extra 30 bux a month for tethering.
bro, im sure you can find away aroung the 30 dollar hotspot fee.
Again, I dont want to have to fuck with it, I want it to just work. Dont want to have to hack anything, alter anything, mess with any computer shit to delete files/mod files/jail break, etc...
If they advertise it, and it cant do it without some sort of work around, it is useless to me.
IamDeMan
06-03-2010, 10:09 AM
Again, I dont want to have to fuck with it, I want it to just work. Dont want to have to hack anything, alter anything, mess with any computer shit to delete files/mod files/jail break, etc...
If they advertise it, and it cant do it without some sort of work around, it is useless to me.
Fair enough imo.
IamDeMan
06-03-2010, 10:10 AM
As an appliance that is.
Spider Monkey
06-03-2010, 11:02 AM
guess thats a no.
And the thread finally provides some lolz.
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 11:03 AM
you cant handle the lolz.
Spider Monkey
06-03-2010, 11:03 AM
you cant handle the lolz.
Fuck yo handle.
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 11:09 AM
bro, you're in my thread stealing my phrases and shit. :crap:
bro, you're in my thread stealing my phrases and shit. :crap:
You never had a thread :fyi:
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 11:12 AM
so now you're taking my thread cuz im a minority!?!?!?!!?
No, but while we are on the subject. May I see your papers...
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 11:15 AM
bro, this aint AZ bro.
ngsm13
06-03-2010, 11:17 AM
Again, I dont want to have to fuck with it, I want it to just work. Dont want to have to hack anything, alter anything, mess with any computer shit to delete files/mod files/jail break, etc...
If they advertise it, and it cant do it without some sort of work around, it is useless to me.
Bro, Android 2.2 has built-in tether... :fyi:
Froyo ftw...
nG
Bro, Android 2.2 has built-in tether... :fyi:
Froyo ftw...
nG
I know that bro, but none of the carriers are going to allow you to use it, at least not for free...
Again, only way around it is with the nexus on ATT and my grandfathered in data plan... All of the other phones, including iphone, are capable of doing so out of the box, but would either incur a charge or require some additional hacking, neither of which I am interested in.
bro, this aint AZ bro.
This forum has members in AZ, so by proxy you = screwed...
Bro.
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 11:33 AM
i is legal, homie.
ngsm13
06-03-2010, 11:45 AM
I know that bro, but none of the carriers are going to allow you to use it, at least not for free...
Again, only way around it is with the nexus on ATT and my grandfathered in data plan... All of the other phones, including iphone, are capable of doing so out of the box, but would either incur a charge or require some additional hacking, neither of which I am interested in.
You are obviously not understanding what I'm saying...
nG
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 11:47 AM
obviously bro.
You are obviously not understanding what I'm saying...
nG
I understand it, but as we have discussed in the thread, just because android can do it, doesnt mean that the carriers allow android to do it. And like I said, I understand that the nexus can do it, but still not sure that is the phone that I want...
If I am still missing something, then by all means, spell it out bro.
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 01:29 PM
F U C K Y O U R C O U C H
John3000
06-03-2010, 02:06 PM
Not true.
Eh? I know with an update it could be free, but I'm kinda with Hoss on the hacking and all the other jibber jabber.
IamDeMan
06-03-2010, 02:10 PM
You never had a thread :fyi:
He never had a phrase.
bro, this aint AZ bro.
This forum has members in AZ, so by proxy you = screwed...
Bro.This.
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 02:11 PM
He never had a phrase.
This.
uncorrect, all of it.
IamDeMan
06-03-2010, 02:20 PM
Callin Joe to send a bus out for your ass.
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 02:21 PM
:crap:
atoz350
06-03-2010, 04:12 PM
Bro Tethering will be available on the iPhone 4g. Just announced. AT&T is charging $20/month to enable tethering. It also requires the 2gb for $25 data plan. So you can only tether 2gb per month before you incur extra fees.
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 04:13 PM
bullshit, we are grandfathered in.....
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 04:15 PM
i have used 630MB of data in 13 days :/
atoz350
06-03-2010, 04:17 PM
bullshit, we are grandfathered in.....
That grandfathered in crap only works with your current phone. They will fuck you over eventually.
Spider Monkey
06-03-2010, 04:20 PM
bullshit, we are grandfathered in.....
You ain't grandfathered shit when you get the new phone.
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 04:21 PM
That grandfathered in crap only works with your current phone. They will fuck you over eventually.
You ain't grandfathered shit when you get the new phone.
bullshit, you dont know the history.
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 04:23 PM
cant you just buy the phone directly from apple, insert your sim card, and viola.... you are keeping your current contract(which has the $30 unlimited data plan) and you have a new phone ;)
Spider Monkey
06-03-2010, 04:27 PM
Fuck yo history.
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 04:28 PM
lollerblades.
atoz350
06-03-2010, 04:55 PM
cant you just buy the phone directly from apple, insert your sim card, and viola.... you are keeping your current contract(which has the $30 unlimited data plan) and you have a new phone ;)
I guess you didn't read earlier when someone said that AT&T knows what phone you're using right?
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 04:56 PM
i said that.
atoz350
06-03-2010, 04:59 PM
i said that.
Actually it was Noah.
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 05:00 PM
uncorrect.
atoz350
06-03-2010, 05:04 PM
uncorrect.
uncorrect.
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 05:04 PM
unpossible, my uncorrect cant be uncorrect by the quantum cervix that is uncorrectness :fyi:
atoz350
06-03-2010, 05:06 PM
unpossible, my uncorrect cant be uncorrect by the quantum cervix that is uncorrectness :fyi:
quantum cervix!! LOL.
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 05:07 PM
Lollerblades.
ngsm13
06-03-2010, 05:10 PM
Got my data plan switched back to the $10/month unlimited family data plan...
nG
ngsm13
06-03-2010, 05:10 PM
+1
nG
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 05:11 PM
that's CS.
atoz350
06-03-2010, 05:23 PM
Those fuckheads shouldn't have switched it in the first place. AT&T is the Apple.
_AnGeL_
06-03-2010, 05:24 PM
+1
nG
where the fuck is my gd +1?
Bro Tethering will be available on the iPhone 4g. Just announced. AT&T is charging $20/month to enable tethering. It also requires the 2gb for $25 data plan. So you can only tether 2gb per month before you incur extra fees.
Bro, I have already said this ITT, on one of the first few pages back where it was OT. Only problem, is that I would rather keep my unlimited data plan than to pay an extra $40/month (based on pretty much doubling the 2gig plan, and tethering the lappy). Just isnt worth it, might as well pay for actual internets at that point.
That grandfathered in crap only works with your current phone. They will fuck you over eventually.
Nah bro, it will work with any new smart phone we get from here on out, just cant ever change it lol.
You ain't grandfathered shit when you get the new phone.
Yeah you are bro. See above. You get to keep the unlimited data, but if you want tethering, gotta change. And once you change, there aint no going back.
IamDeMan
06-04-2010, 06:09 AM
cant you just buy the phone directly from apple, insert your sim card, and viola.... you are keeping your current contract(which has the $30 unlimited data plan) and you have a new phone ;)
And they see a new iPhone on your account and promptly ungrandfather you.
ngsm13
06-04-2010, 06:29 AM
lol...
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/same-as-it-ever-was-you-cant-tether-an-iphone-to-the-ipad/
In the meantime, you know what you can tether to an iPad? A phone running Froyo, for one -- Google was certainly happy to show off that capability back at IO. Or pretty much any device running S60 from the last several years. Or a Palm Pre Plus... yeah, you get the idea.
nG
And they see a new iPhone on your account and promptly ungrandfather you.
That was not the way that I read the story :shrug:
I believe that as long as you already have the unlimited data plan, they are not going to take it away from you, so long as you never remove it from your plan. So you could get the new iPhone, and still have the unlimited data plan. The new data plans are just for new customers coming to ATT.
If I am wrong about that though, ATT is for damn sure going to lose my business.
IamDeMan
06-04-2010, 07:41 AM
That was not the way that I read the story :shrug:
I believe that as long as you already have the unlimited data plan, they are not going to take it away from you, so long as you never remove it from your plan. So you could get the new iPhone, and still have the unlimited data plan. The new data plans are just for new customers coming to ATT.
If I am wrong about that though, ATT is for damn sure going to lose my business.
More than likely you are correct. I doubt they tie their service to both the user and phone in the contracts, but shittier shit has happened with good businesses before.
I could see them trying something like that though... But I could almost guaruntee that they would drive away most all of their current customers with iPhones looking to upgrade.
I mean a good percentage of them are already fed up with the service as it is, if they limit it even further, then what is the point?
Randy Savage
06-04-2010, 08:13 AM
If they realize that enough people are updating phones and extending contracts w/ old "grandfathered" features, they'll eventually REQUIRE the updated plan with new phone upgrades.
Sprint is doing it now with Android phones...all Android phones require an everything plan- they're trying to phase out old SERO contracts by not giving SERO users much of a choice for smartphones.
If they realize that enough people are updating phones and extending contracts w/ old "grandfathered" features, they'll eventually REQUIRE the updated plan with new phone upgrades.
Sprint is doing it now with Android phones...all Android phones require an everything plan- they're trying to phase out old SERO contracts by not giving SERO users much of a choice for smartphones.
ATT cant exactly afford to do that right now... The only thing keeping them alive is the iPhone.
If they chase the iPhone croo away, then they would solve the network congestion, but would dramatically cut their wireless client base, AND they would drive Apple away from them. I am sure that many people who were already considering the iPad 3G have already started to reconsider given the new data restrictions. I know that I would rather wait and see what t-mo or other carriers were going to offer...
Randy Savage
06-04-2010, 08:22 AM
ATT cant exactly afford to do that right now... The only thing keeping them alive is the iPhone.
If they chase the iPhone croo away, then they would solve the network congestion, but would dramatically cut their wireless client base, AND they would drive Apple away from them. I am sure that many people who were already considering the iPad 3G have already started to reconsider given the new data restrictions. I know that I would rather wait and see what t-mo or other carriers were going to offer...
I'm not too familiar with ATT's wireless game...they don't have much time left for iPhone exclusivity, correct?
Are they working to extend that? If they do, they'd have users by the balls- lets face it, people are going to use the iPhone no matter what.
They just renewed exlusivity, right before they changed their data plans.
Like I said in the begining of the thread, I imagine that Steve is going to have a few things to say about their new plans.
Maybe they will allow the use of VOIP on the iPhone now, just so that they can go ahead and bite the hand that feeds just like ATT did.
gymfreak101
06-04-2010, 08:29 AM
Have they announced the release dates for the new iPhones? Also wondering if the will let you upgrade early like they did for the 3g. And I would also leave AT&T if they tried to take away my unlimited family plan.
Have they announced the release dates for the new iPhones? Also wondering if the will let you upgrade early like they did for the 3g. And I would also leave AT&T if they tried to take away my unlimited family plan.
They havent even debuted the new phone yet bro.
gymfreak101
06-04-2010, 08:35 AM
They havent even debuted the new phone yet bro.
Just looked it up. CNN is saying they will announce the phone next week and it willgo on sell the 21st
Apple will most likely debut it on monday, at their whatever conference.
gymfreak101
06-04-2010, 08:39 AM
Apple will most likely debut it on monday, at their whatever conference.
Yea that's what it said. Also said they are going to call it the iPhone HD not 4g. I have been holding on to a bestbuy gift card forever guess I will upgrade my phone.
Yeah, it has been nicknamed the 4G for a while, but just about everyone has said it will not carry that title, since it is not a 4G phone.
atoz350
06-04-2010, 09:17 AM
ATT cant exactly afford to do that right now... The only thing keeping them alive is the iPhone.
If they chase the iPhone croo away, then they would solve the network congestion, but would dramatically cut their wireless client base, AND they would drive Apple away from them. I am sure that many people who were already considering the iPad 3G have already started to reconsider given the new data restrictions. I know that I would rather wait and see what t-mo or other carriers were going to offer...
I read in an article that they are doing this to increase the number of smartphone subscribers. They feel that most people shy away from smartphones under them because they don't want to pay for the $30 data plan that is required. This is a tiered service, so that people have a chance to enter the smartphone market at a cheaper rate. At the same time, they are looking to eliminate the data hungry users by cutting their service down. The thing is, most smartphones are very data intensive an will actually gain AT&T quite a bit of money on the backs of the ignorant.
Spider Monkey
06-04-2010, 11:26 AM
Yeah you are bro. See above. You get to keep the unlimited data, but if you want tethering, gotta change. And once you change, there aint no going back.
If you gotta change, then you ain't grandfathered into shit. My fact stands.
If you gotta change, then you ain't grandfathered into shit. My fact stands.
WTF are you talking about? No one is forcing you to change... The only reason you would have to change your data plan is if you want to be able to tether your iphone.
And if that is the case, you ARE grandfathered in, but you opt out of it. Your fact does not stand.
Spider Monkey
06-04-2010, 12:00 PM
WTF are you talking about? No one is forcing you to change... The only reason you would have to change your data plan is if you want to be able to tether your iphone.
And if that is the case, you ARE grandfathered in, but you opt out of it. Your fact does not stand.
Incorrect
Feel free to tell me how so.
Spider Monkey
06-04-2010, 12:26 PM
Really not feeling like it right now. Perhaps later.
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