Should shoppers be taxed

[IamDeMan]

For using plastic and/or paper bags instead of reusable bags?

If so, should they be taxed equally?

[IamDeMan]

I think they should be taxed and that more tax be placed on the use of plastic bags. People need incentive to move toward the use of reusable bags.

[tappin_azz]

al gore?? is that you?

[Rashaddd]

Idk but does anyone else hate the tax on canned drinks? Everytime I go buy a 12pack of grape soda it costs like double because of the god damn tax

bastards

[Spider Monkey]

For using plastic and/or paper bags instead of reusable bags?

If so, should they be taxed equally?

I think people that willingly select plastic should be drug out to the street and shot. People that use reusable bags are cool. It’s okay to be a hippy if you don't mind me snickering at you while we're in line. I prefer paper. Better for the environment all the way around.


What a weird fucking question anyhow. Are you writing a paper on grocery store educate?

[IamDeMan]

I think people that willingly select plastic should be drug out to the street and shot. People that use reusable bags are cool. It’s okay to be a hippy if you don't mind me snickering at you while we're in line. I prefer paper. Better for the environment all the way around.


What a weird fucking question anyhow. Are you writing a paper on grocery store educate?

How is paper a better choice all around?

It takes more energy to produce and recycle paper. It uses valuable forestry resources. It could be argued that the effects from paper bag production are equally harmful to that of plastic.

I don't mind the snickers. My cloth reusable bags are dope as shit.


Why can't I ask thoughtful questions without an agenda? No I am not writing any paper that has to do with this subject. Just read a story about it while researching a different issue lol.

[Spider Monkey]

How is paper a better choice all around?

It takes more energy to produce and recycle paper. It uses valuable forestry resources. It could be argued that the effects from paper bag production are equally harmful to that of plastic.

Did I say shit about the paper being recycled? Both kinds of bags can be used multiple times. The difference is that the plastic bags eventually find their way to a landfill and there they remain for centuries. A paper bag disenigrates.

I don't mind the snickers. My cloth reusable bags are dope as shit.

So are gramma nancy's who's in line behind you.

Why can't I ask thoughtful questions without an agenda?


I dunno. You tell me. You know yourself better than anyone else.

No I am not writing any paper that has to do with this subject. Just read a story about it while researching a different issue lol.

Wait wat? Are they doing this or thinking about it or something?

Fuck, they tax bags, I'll go bagless. Course I'm not paying taxes on goods right now anyhow. Won't do it until I get my goberment cheese that is due to me.

[IamDeMan]

Did I say shit about the paper being recycled? Both kinds of bags can be used multiple times. The difference is that the plastic bags eventually find their way to a landfill and there they remain for centuries. A paper bag disenigrates.



So are gramma nancy's who's in line behind you.



Wait wat? Are they doing this or thinking about it or something?

Fuck, they tax bags, I'll go bagless. Course I'm not paying taxes on goods right now anyhow. Won't do it until I get my goberment cheese that is due to me.

It isn't just recycling. Way to address what was after the "and", troll. They take a larger amount of energy just to produce. Coming from California, I expect you to hate anything that uses too much energy. My cloth bags can be reused hella more than your paper.

Nancy is not my grandmothers name.

It isn't being discussed here, although cities in your shithole state have outright banned plastic. There is a tax on plastic bags in Ireland. I think taxing it is a lot better than banning it like your ban happy state seems to think.

[Spider Monkey]

It isn't just recycling. Way to address what was after the "and", troll. They take a larger amount of energy just to produce. Coming from California, I expect you to hate anything that uses too much energy. My cloth bags can be reused hella more than your paper.

Nancy is not my grandmothers name.

It isn't being discussed here, although cities in your shithole state have outright banned plastic. There is a tax on plastic bags in Ireland. I think taxing it is a lot better than banning it like your ban happy state seems to think.

What 'and'? I am legitimately giving you an honest response. This is no troll. Plastic bags are fail. They fill landfills and kill baby kittens. I don't come from SoCal, so opinions on the matter are not as you'd expect. I'm all for banning plastic bags. That would be funny.

So keep it up nut muffin. I'll show you ban happy. :bootyshake:

[bluecar]

I don't like incentive based taxes. If everyone all at once decided to quit using plastic bags, the programs once funded by these taxes do not disappear, the government finds a new revenue stream.

Like I said, tax the bags, it isn't going to make me stop using them unless they tax them too high. Then I will just use my hands.

[bluecar]

I have no use at all for paper bags. I would just nothing before paper.

[Spider Monkey]

Then I will just use my hands.


That's kinda what I was thinking. That or steal a shopping cart. They work better than a bag in ths store and in the parking lot. I'd get one to take me from the garage to the kitchen.

[Spider Monkey]

I have no use at all for paper bags. I would just nothing before paper.

They make good wrapping paper.

[Bender]

I think they should be taxed and that more tax be placed on the use of plastic bags. People need incentive to move toward the use of reusable bags.

fuck you, you damn tree hugger. those damn cloth bags are a pain in the ass to bag

[IamDeMan]

What 'and'? I am legitimately giving you an honest response. This is no troll. Plastic bags are fail. They fill landfills and kill baby kittens. I don't come from SoCal, so opinions on the matter are not as you'd expect. I'm all for banning plastic bags. That would be funny.

So keep it up nut muffin. I'll show you ban happy. :bootyshake:

Where the fuck did I say plastic bags aren't bad? I am just stating that paper can be considered equally as bad.

the and was right in between ...to produce AND recycle. You chose to only address one side of that, troll.

[Spider Monkey]

Where the fuck did I say plastic bags aren't bad? I am just stating that paper can be considered equally as bad.

Only by hippies.

the and was right in between ...to produce AND recycle. You chose to only address one side of that, troll.

Well that was an accident, troll.

[IamDeMan]

That's kinda what I was thinking. That or steal a shopping cart. They work better than a bag in ths store and in the parking lot. I'd get one to take me from the garage to the kitchen.You can rig it so that it attaches to the hitch of your Jeep too! You may be on to something there.

I have no use at all for paper bags. I would just nothing before paper.Well, some of us have decided that intimate relationships are worth the gamble and do more than just shop for ourselves and only worry about ourselves. We have discovered a world to coexist with. Sometimes I can confuse you for icetee.

They make good wrapping paper.Best argument to use any of them yet.

fuck you, you damn tree hugger. those damn cloth bags are a pain in the ass to bagYes, pawn your laziness off on everything else.

[IamDeMan]

Only by hippies.



Well that was an accident, troll.

I think you accidentally the whole troll.

[Volpone]

I was fairly certain the last time that I reviewed this debate that there was no clear cost-benefit analysis done between paper and plastic; there was no consensus, either, but media seemed to be about 2/3 pro-plastic 1/3 pro-paper..

Regardless, I use re-usable bags when grocerying. If I don't have the bags with me at another store, I just refuse a bag altogether.

Personally, I am not for the tax. I would prefer that the companies let the consumer choose; despite mass stupidity, my experiences thus far have indicated that the majority are at least interested in re-usable bags, and with continued education I think that will trend up as well.

[joetama]

I get plastic bags. I use them for trash bags and reuse them all the time around my apartment for various things.

Typically plastic bags get 2 or 3 uses before I throw them out. So meh... All you liberals can recycle and I'll keep just doing what I do. ;)

[tEh koRnDog]

How is paper a better choice all around?

It takes more energy to produce and recycle paper. It uses valuable forestry resources. It could be argued that the effects from paper bag production are equally harmful to that of plastic.

I don't mind the snickers. My cloth reusable bags are dope as shit.


Why can't I ask thoughtful questions without an agenda? No I am not writing any paper that has to do with this subject. Just read a story about it while researching a different issue lol.

+1111

[IamDeMan]

It appears I need to figure out how to stick tax up my ass.

[Toasted1]

I reuse them for carrying lunch to work so I do get mutiple uses out of them but usually toss them. I would be willing to pay like a .10 cent tax per bag as I would probably only have to buy like a dozen once and a few others over a year to have enough.

Personally I prefer a paper + plastic setup for my groceries but my closest market does not even carry paper anymore :(

[Porch Monkey]

they go right in the trash for me, I got 1K of them 3ft away right now.

[Proximity]

Shut up you queer fucking hippies.

[IamDeMan]

Shut up you queer fucking hippies.

Yes, you're right. We should all fuck the planet so there is no future for us.

[Spider Monkey]

Yes, you're right. We should all fuck the planet so there is no future for us.

See, you're anti plastic too. You jsut can't admit it.

[IamDeMan]

See, you're anti plastic too. You jsut can't admit it.

No. I am definitely anti-plastic. I am also anti-paper :fyi:

[Spider Monkey]

No. I am definitely anti-plastic. I am also anti-paper :fyi:

You got a problem with the logging industry? Do you really want tens of thousands of loggers to go without a paycheck?

[IamDeMan]

You got a problem with the logging industry? Do you really want tens of thousands of loggers to go without a paycheck?

lel

I love the loggers so much, that I would rather see there wood go towards beautiful and necessary items that everyone will appreciate.

[Spider Monkey]

lel

I love the loggers so much, that I would rather see there wood go towards beautiful and necessary items that everyone will appreciate.

But I appreciate a good paper bag. Especially the ones with handles.

[IamDeMan]

But I appreciate a good paper bag. Especially the ones with handles.
Makes it easier to pull over teh womens head?

BTW, where are our pix?

[Spider Monkey]

Makes it easier to pull over teh womens head?


LEL
BTW, where are our pix?
You want pix of a bag?

[bluecar]

lel

I love the loggers so much, that I would rather see there wood go towards beautiful and necessary items that everyone will appreciate.

You do realize that the logging industry plants more trees than it cuts down per year.

[IamDeMan]

You do realize that the logging industry plants more trees than it cuts down per year.

Tell the rain forest that.

[darthvibrator]

fuck that. i use the plastic baggies to line by trash can in my bathroom.

[mattf]

Fuck everyone and their green/global warming/save the earth/hybrid/hippie/carbon credit bullshit. Those people need to get a fucking clue and worry about their own life. Quit trying to force everyone into your own fairy tale world bull shit.

[mattf]

Also, when I get home from WalMart, the plastic bags go directly into the garbage.

[Volpone]

Matt, you're a fucking moron.

[mattf]

Matt, you're a fucking moron.

I'm dying to hear the explanation why.

[Volpone]

You take a great deal of pride in wasting resources. That is fucking stupid. Whether you believe in man's role in the climate or not is irrelevant; there is no reason to intentionally avoid minimizing harm and maximizing efficiency if possible, but to you it is about some stupid ideological battle that is, as yet, inconclusive.

[mattf]

I don't take pride in it. That's just what I do. I have a cupboard full of them. I don't need anymore.

[Pop Da Hatch]

you fuck.

[mattf]

and you know, the only reason I posted that was to get people worked up. It worked.

[mattf]

you fuck.
you fuck. at least I'm not flooded.

[Pop Da Hatch]

nor am I, I helped sandbag in moorhead and it still flooded regardless.

[mattf]

close enough. if everyone wouldn't have helped like you did you'd all be fucked right now. I was gonna come down there this weekend but the roads are still closed.

[pl8er]

http://nsaney.com/pics/al_gore_excelsior.jpg

[slim8605]

So are gramma nancy's who's in line behind you.



Nancy is not my grandmothers name.


My grandma's name is Nancy..

My girl uses the cloth bags but I still rock plastic because I use them for trash bags and to carry other random stuff around.

[Spider Monkey]

Tell the rain forest that.

There are no loggers in the rain forest do0d. Have you even seen the show, Ax Men?

[IamDeMan]

There are no loggers in the rain forest do0d. Have you even seen the show, Ax Men?

Yes and people don't crab fish in other countries either.

[Spider Monkey]

Yes and people don't crab fish in other countries either.

Well dur.

[Volpone]

A lot of the deforestation in tropical regions is a result of developing countries clearing space for homes. I think the biggest concern there is the substantial amount of medicine that we are losing.

[bluecar]

You take a great deal of pride in wasting resources. That is fucking stupid. Whether you believe in man's role in the climate or not is irrelevant; there is no reason to intentionally avoid minimizing harm and maximizing efficiency if possible, but to you it is about some stupid ideological battle that is, as yet, inconclusive.

Are you arguing is that much more efficient to purchase extra trash bags and cat litter bags? I don't think so. Because many people reuse those bags for a variety of things, it isn't as wasteful as you would imagine. If those things are banned, now I have to purchase a bag to throw away.

[Spider Monkey]

You could just throw away your cat.

That is a one time deal.

[IamDeMan]

You could just throw away your cat.

That is a one time deal.

I love mah cats, but that is LOLz

[bluecar]

x2 on the cats

[Spider Monkey]

I love mah cats, but that is LOLz

x2 on the cats

Wait. You two aree on something? :loco:

[IamDeMan]

Wait. You two aree on something? :loco:

inorite?!

[bluecar]

We have agreed a couple times. Few and far between.

[IamDeMan]

We have agreed a couple times. Few and far between.

If you count agreeing to disagree, then we agree quite often.

[Spider Monkey]

We have agreed a couple times. Few and far between.

If you count agreeing to disagree, then we agree quite often.

You just had to disagree, huh. lel

[IamDeMan]

You just had to disagree, huh. lel

lmao, I didn't even catch that. It's natural.