View Full Version : Have you ever had the feeling
IamDeMan
04-02-2009, 09:57 AM
That your life is one big movie made up by your mind? The people you interact with IRL, online or by any other mediums are just concocted by your mind and perceived as real? how do you know that this isn't the case?
How many times has someone made reference to something personal in your life that you don't remember telling them? This could explain how they know.
snoopdan
04-02-2009, 09:59 AM
You're paranoid.
tappin_azz
04-02-2009, 10:01 AM
its the alcohol. and yes, youre paranoid.
styk777
04-02-2009, 10:01 AM
where do u think they got the idea for the matrix from?
IamDeMan
04-02-2009, 10:07 AM
You're paranoid.
its the alcohol. and yes, youre paranoid.
I didn't say anything about me. I am asking the question.
where do u think they got the idea for the matrix from?
that was other sources causing it though. This is YOU causing this reality.
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slim8605
04-02-2009, 10:12 AM
Truman Show
Spider Monkey
04-02-2009, 10:13 AM
I pinch myself during moments of doubt for assurance.
slim8605
04-02-2009, 10:14 AM
And yes. I used to think that. Now I realize that I am not the center of the universe and the world doesn't revolve around me.
styk777
04-02-2009, 10:15 AM
so what r we if we r just making this all up
Tiger Bass
04-02-2009, 10:17 AM
:bong:
so what r we if we r just making this all up
You're definitely not a product of my mind, you'd spell better if you were.
Spider Monkey
04-02-2009, 10:18 AM
so what r we if we r just making this all up
Figments of the imagination. Duh.
slim8605
04-02-2009, 10:20 AM
You're definitely not a product of my mind, you'd spell better if you were.
But then you would have no one to correct.
styk777
04-02-2009, 10:22 AM
that is correct.
IamDeMan
04-02-2009, 06:06 PM
Truman Show
And yes. I used to think that. Now I realize that I am not the center of the universe and the world doesn't revolve around me.
Once again, that was an external source creating the alt reality. My question involves your mind making the alternate reality.
_AnGeL_
04-02-2009, 06:08 PM
my mind isnt capable of such a thing, ims the messicant :(
slim8605
04-02-2009, 06:31 PM
Once again, that was an external source creating the alt reality. My question involves your mind making the alternate reality.
So it would be sort of like a dream state of mind?
IamDeMan
04-02-2009, 06:43 PM
I suppose you could say that. except you really are awake. You are the crazy guy on the corner that talks to himself but don't realize. More like Beautiful Mind.
shaneb
04-02-2009, 07:01 PM
the matrix
slim8605
04-02-2009, 07:05 PM
I suppose you could say that. except you really are awake. You are the crazy guy on the corner that talks to himself but don't realize. More like Beautiful Mind.
Damn it I never finished watching that movie.
the matrix
No.
darthvibrator
04-02-2009, 08:20 PM
i have thought of something very similar. then i started to think about dying and how when you die, itll be over and you wont know you even existed...so do you even exist right now, or are you already dead and just replaying a "movie" of your life?
IamDeMan
04-02-2009, 08:56 PM
the matrixWay to pay attention, feg.
Damn it I never finished watching that movie.
Finish it.
i have thought of something very similar. then i started to think about dying and how when you die, itll be over and you wont know you even existed...so do you even exist right now, or are you already dead and just replaying a "movie" of your life?
You just turned this into a bigger mindfuck.
IDSkot
04-03-2009, 12:57 AM
You're definitely not a product of my mind, you'd spell better if you were.
I think this should be quoted for emphasis. My figments of the imagination would definitely smarter than most of the idiots on CA.com.
i have thought of something very similar. then i started to think about dying and how when you die, itll be over and you wont know you even existed...so do you even exist right now, or are you already dead and just replaying a "movie" of your life?
Perhaps like an "out of body experience" where people say they see different things. Like a dream that takes for ever, but actually happens really quickly in real life... and we're all just dying, but we're living a multitude of lives with in this time where we think we're living. We breathe, sweat, cry, but we're actually just in a dream of ourselves right before our real physical body dies.
joetama
04-03-2009, 01:24 AM
I know my life isn't a TV show or movie... If it was chicks would be way hotter and people would say way cooler things.
Pop Da Hatch
04-03-2009, 01:38 AM
:fu:
joetama
04-03-2009, 01:39 AM
Oh yea?
shaneb
04-03-2009, 01:47 AM
Way to pay attention, feg.
I knew it was already said. Thanks, though!
Volpone
04-03-2009, 04:04 AM
Is your idea that we're stationary and imagining things, or that because everything in life is about perception we could be getting "tricked" on a daily basis by our minds?
IamDeMan
04-03-2009, 07:04 AM
I know my life isn't a TV show or movie... If it was chicks would be way hotter and people would say way cooler things.One would think, but are all your dreams at fantasy levels or do they contain some more realistic representation as well?
I knew it was already said. Thanks, though!Then STFU & GTFO you fucking retard.
Is your idea that we're stationary and imagining things, or that because everything in life is about perception we could be getting "tricked" on a daily basis by our minds?
More of just perception. Take the crazy guy on the corner who talks to himself. How de we know that isn't us? Maybe all the people we talk to is nothing more than us talking to ourself.
darthvibrator
04-03-2009, 07:56 AM
I know my life isn't a TV show or movie... If it was chicks would be way hotter and people would say way cooler things.
maybe your show sucks?
pl8er
04-03-2009, 09:55 AM
That your life is one big movie made up by your mind? The people you interact with IRL, online or by any other mediums are just concocted by your mind and perceived as real? how do you know that this isn't the case?
How many times has someone made reference to something personal in your life that you don't remember telling them? This could explain how they know.
I see everyone is giving you shit, but I'm with you on that. Like the whole fucking place is just generated for me. Of course, I've also thought that everything around me was staged.
I think its some sort of psychological thing where we want to present ourselves to the world as more important and significant than we really are.
OR, maybe that is what we have to think, because if we didn't, we would know too much......
Spider Monkey
04-03-2009, 10:28 AM
maybe your show sucks?
HAHAHAHAHA
Volpone
04-03-2009, 12:37 PM
Go to the library and get Descartes' Meditations and Hume's Treatise of Human Nature. Two of the best works on the relationship between the internal and the external, the mind and the body. McGinn wrote a paper in '89 that basically suggests that the very nature of the brain makes it impossible for us to understand it completely, and thus these types of questions may be unsolvable.
joetama
04-03-2009, 01:41 PM
maybe your show sucks?
Could be... I hope they don't cancel it. :(
IamDeMan
04-03-2009, 04:19 PM
Go to the library and get Descartes' Meditations and Hume's Treatise of Human Nature. Two of the best works on the relationship between the internal and the external, the mind and the body. McGinn wrote a paper in '89 that basically suggests that the very nature of the brain makes it impossible for us to understand it completely, and thus these types of questions may be unsolvable.
I will have to check these out. Sounds interesting.
That your life is one big movie made up by your mind? The people you interact with IRL, online or by any other mediums are just concocted by your mind and perceived as real? how do you know that this isn't the case?
How many times has someone made reference to something personal in your life that you don't remember telling them? This could explain how they know.
All the fucking time.
I about blew my top when someone in my philosophy class compared life to the Matrix.
Go to the library and get Descartes' Meditations and Hume's Treatise of Human Nature. Two of the best works on the relationship between the internal and the external, the mind and the body. McGinn wrote a paper in '89 that basically suggests that the very nature of the brain makes it impossible for us to understand it completely, and thus these types of questions may be unsolvable.
And the only thing Descartes proves in his Meditations is that his thinking is circular and that he's retarded for thinking the things he does.
Volpone
04-03-2009, 06:45 PM
Well, let's be clear about something: Descartes' use of philosophical skepticism is extremely important to almost every Western philosopher since then. I recommend his reading as an introduction to this type of thought, and that's why it is used in beginner's philosophy classes at universities and colleges as well.
His first deduction "cogito ergo sum" is very agreeable, though I think the mechanism of perception could have been better explained than through the Wax Argument. Of course, it kind of falls off the rails as soon as he establishes a benevolent god through the ontological and trademark arguments, both of which I think are basically bare assertion fallacies. Once he establishes a benevolent god, he argues that a benevolent god would not wish to trick us, so we may trust our perception of things to be true.
Hume later provided criticism of these problems. The purpose of philosophy is to promote thought and, thankfully, our ability to apply logic and deduction allow us to look back on the lessons of Descartes without accepting the foibles.
Well, let's be clear about something: Descartes' use of philosophical skepticism is extremely important to almost every Western philosopher since then. I recommend his reading as an introduction to this type of thought, and that's why it is used in beginner's philosophy classes at universities and colleges as well.
His first deduction "cogito ergo sum" is very agreeable, though I think the mechanism of perception could have been better explained than through the Wax Argument. Of course, it kind of falls off the rails as soon as he establishes a benevolent god through the ontological and trademark arguments, both of which I think are basically bare assertion fallacies. Once he establishes a benevolent god, he argues that a benevolent god would not wish to trick us, so we may trust our perception of things to be true.
Hume later provided criticism of these problems. The purpose of philosophy is to promote thought and, thankfully, our ability to apply logic and deduction allow us to look back on the lessons of Descartes without accepting the foibles.
I agree, a major vice I had with Descartes was how he reasoned God to exist. The wax idea made a good bit of sense, but I agree, he should of gone further into perception before he came to the conclusion in meditation six that all things he can sense and perceive are indeed real.
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