Jeep boys come school me

[toasted1]

on these Cherokees. They are ugly as hell but seem to be cheap, have decent mileage and would be good in east coast winters.

http://www.autotrader.com/dealers/dda/detail.jsp?ct=u&address=01080&resultCar=283669521&dealership_view_name=newenglandmotors&car_id=283669521&dealer_id=55870041

Purpose of car is to get me to and from work (85mi RT) and have enough room for two 12" funky pups.

[Echo42987]

I have 2 12" FUNKIES I could sell you.....

Are you trying to find something that wont use tons of gas?

1999 Yukons are an awesome buy if that's not a huge concern.

[junior]

Try and look for an 01-04. They can be found for a good price if you look. Better engines and better body style IMHO.

[evildave101]

good trucks

the 4.0 ho6 is known to run 300,000+ miles with proper maintenance

i would prefer the 5 speed manual, but thats me

[evildave101]

and dont let the monkey fool you - the cherokees have the same drive train as the tj with the exception of the suspension in the rear (xj has leaf springs, tj has coils) and some models use different trannys

[toasted1]

I have 2 12" FUNKIES I could sell you.....

Are you trying to find something that wont use tons of gas?

1999 Yukons are an awesome buy if that's not a huge concern.

Gas is not a big deal but now that looking at it I see they only get 14/18 :ugh: either way with no car note it's not a big issue and I miss the room of an SUV after driving a compact for 4 years.

As for Yukons, Tahoes and even Denalis I won't find any under 125k miles for 7k so I'd rather just get an uglier ride that still has decent room as it is my A to B car.

Next year providing I don't get laid off I'll look around for something a little more fun.

Paid 5900 for 01 Sentra in 05' with 70k. I'm just over 150k now and it needs shocks and an exhaust at a sum of about $1500 so I'm thinking jumping now and getting maybe 2k for the sentra is gonna be my best bet.

[toasted1]

and yeah I'd take a manual over an AT anyday but I'll take what I can get.

Any tranny or other problems common with them? Looking to get 150-200k out of it if I can.

[Spider Monkey]

and dont let the monkey fool you

Wat? That ride he posted is a straight legit Jeep. He can lift the fuck outta that thing and make it seriously mallcore.

[Porch Monkey]

I'd sell you mine for cheap. It doesn't run. lol

[evildave101]

Wat? That ride he posted is a straight legit Jeep. He can lift the fuck outta that thing and make it seriously mallcore.

sorry bb, was expecting "thats not a real jeep" <3

[toasted1]

That's what I was wondering if it was legit or not, last thing I need is to be riding around with my it's a jeep thing decal offending ppl :laugh:

and the 4.0 is the only way to go? I know they make a 4 cyl

[toasted1]

I'd sell you mine for cheap. It doesn't run. lol

What's wrong with it?

[Porch Monkey]

mine's a 4.0

[Porch Monkey]

What's wrong with it?
could not tell you, it's not in the best shape though

[evildave101]

That's what I was wondering if it was legit or not, last thing I need is to be riding around with my it's a jeep thing decal offending ppl :laugh:

and the 4.0 is the only way to go? I know they make a 4 cyl

yes, IMO

the one you linked is legit - i would rock it

[toasted1]

Was looking up some info and saw this pic :bowdown:

http://image.4wheeloffroad.com/f/10317069/131_0402_01z+jeep_5kxj+off_roading.jpg

[Spider Monkey]

sorry bb, was expecting "thats not a real jeep" <3
Nope, those are the other legit Jeeps.
That's what I was wondering if it was legit or not, last thing I need is to be riding around with my it's a jeep thing decal offending ppl :laugh:

and the 4.0 is the only way to go? I know they make a 4 cyl

YES. The 4cyl is weak as balls bro.

[Spider Monkey]

Was looking up some info and saw this pic :bowdown:

http://image.4wheeloffroad.com/f/10317069/131_0402_01z+jeep_5kxj+off_roading.jpg

You wouldn't be doing that in a Liberty or Grand Cherokee. lol

[IamDeMan]

Grand Wagoneer or go the fuck home.

[jesus]

Was looking up some info and saw this pic :bowdown:

http://image.4wheeloffroad.com/f/10317069/131_0402_01z+jeep_5kxj+off_roading.jpg

That looks just like DG's truck, except his is red.

[Spider Monkey]

That looks just like DG's truck, except his is red.

Gangsta

[evildave101]

You wouldn't be doing that in a Liberty or Grand Cherokee. lol

grand is basically the same truck, with a different body and a v8 option

liberty is crap

[jesus]

Had to screenshot part of a video :laugh:

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/jpexpc/dg.jpg

[mackin]

You wouldn't be doing that in a Liberty or Grand Cherokee. lol


Bullshit, asshole.

I have a 2001 Grand Cherokee with the 4.0 and it's still going strong with just under 142k. Hoping to run it up to 200k.

[toasted1]

That looks decent, do you know what size tires by any chance?

[Spider Monkey]

grand is basically the same truck, with a different body and a v8 option

liberty is crap

The grand is IFS. and isn't as sturdy as the Cherokee in any way bro.

[mackin]

Them tires will make the MPG's drop.

[Spider Monkey]

Bullshit, asshole.

I have a 2001 Grand Cherokee with the 4.0 and it's still going strong with just under 142k. Hoping to run it up to 200k.

So you're saying you launch it off of sand dunes?

[toasted1]

That jeep + dgs tire size + http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/black_steel_wheels.gif

[evildave101]

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s116/evildave151/trucks/297ff936.jpg

[Spider Monkey]

That jeep + dgs tire size + http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/black_steel_wheels.gif

Black Steelies FTW. Get rid of that gay ass chrome center though. Throw it away. Seriously.

[mackin]

So you're saying you launch it off of sand dunes?

Fuck yeah, bro. I'd say about 100k of those miles are spent launching the dunes. :fyi:

[evildave101]

So you're saying you launch it off of sand dunes?

can be done

[mackin]

http://www.rockkrawler.com/images/RKWJ55TTLA_01.jpg

[Spider Monkey]

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s116/evildave151/trucks/297ff936.jpg
Look at all teh work that had to do into that thing to make it comparable to a Jeep.
Fuck yeah, bro. I'd say about 100k of those miles are spent launching the dunes. :fyi:
I call lies. I want a picture of you launching sand dunes with a hotdog on the roof.
can be done

Can not.

[evildave101]

The grand is IFS. and isn't as sturdy as the Cherokee in any way bro.

uncorrect

grand is a straight axle and has the same axles as a cherokee

[evildave101]

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s116/evildave151/trucks/2371130f.jpg

[Spider Monkey]

uncorrect

grand is a straight axle and has the same axles as a cherokee

Bullshit. You're just making shit up now trying to make me mad. lol

[evildave101]

Bullshit. You're just making shit up now trying to make me mad. lol

i has one dood, and it has axle shafts from a cherokee to get rid of the cv joints and abs tone rings

[mackin]

http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s350/IIMaCkiNII/hotdog.png
Just got back from the dunes.

[Spider Monkey]

i has one dood, and it has axle shafts from a cherokee to get rid of the cv joints and abs tone rings
So you admit, that the only reason your grand has a front axle is because you took one off of a Jeep.
http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s350/IIMaCkiNII/hotdog.png
Just got back from the dunes.
Well shit. I stand corrected. lolz

[mackin]

SM, are you also Anti-New Jeep Grand Cherokee?

[evildave101]

So you admit, that the only reason your grand has a front axle is because you took one off of a Jeep.

no sir, i replaced the axle shafts, not the housing

grand stock has a live axle with cv joints. i broke a cv joint and replaced the shafts with axle shafts from a cherokee, because they have u-joints - getting rid of the abs tone rings was just a plus because i hate abs

[Spider Monkey]

SM, are you also Anti-New Jeep Grand Cherokee?
I'm not anti anything. I just prefer to call things what they are. Calling a Grand Cherokee a Jeep is inaccurate.


no sir, i replaced the axle shafts, not the housing

grand stock has a live axle with cv joints. i broke a cv joint and replaced the shafts with axle shafts from a cherokee, because they have u-joints - getting rid of the abs tone rings was just a plus because i hate abs

Lies. They have IFS.

[evildave101]

uncorrect

new ones might, but from 93 to 06 or so dont

[mackin]

YouTube- 2011 Grand Cherokee Manifesto Commercial
YouTube- 2011 Jeep Gran Cherokee
New Grand Cherokee FTW.

[evildave101]

the liberty was the first jeep with ifs

[Spider Monkey]

uncorrect

new ones might, but from 93 to 06 or so dont

I thought you knew your stuff when it came to trucks. :crap:

[Spider Monkey]

Show me a god damn second axle in this picture.

http://www.jeep.com/shared/2009/grand_cherokee/capability/undercarriage/primary/undercarriage_story/01_overview.jpg

[evildave101]

what year is that?

[evildave101]

uncorrect

new ones might, but from 93 to 06 or so dont

.

[Spider Monkey]

what year is that?

Doesn't matter. NONE of them have front axles.

[evildave101]

the Jeep Grand Cherokee debuted in 1993 and did not have an independent front suspension system (IFS). The second generation, 1999 to 2004 also lacked an IFS. However, the third generation of Jeep Grand Cherokee gains an IFS for the first time in 2005 according to 4 Wheel Off Road Magazine

i was wrong on the year, they got ifs in 05, but from 93 to 04 they have a straight axle

[IamDeMan]

Grand Wagoneer or go the fuck home.

....

[Spider Monkey]

i was wrong on the year, they got ifs in 05, but from 93 to 04 they have a straight axle
4 Wheel Off Road Magazine is wrong.
....
DOTS

[Jamesypoo]

Bullshit, asshole.

I have a 2001 Grand Cherokee with the 4.0 and it's still going strong with just under 142k. Hoping to run it up to 200k.

So you're saying you launch it off of sand dunes?
What if I told you such a vehicle exists that still drifts like mad, goes airborne over train tracks at least once a week, and currently has 242,xxx on the odometer? I know thangs.
That jeep + dgs tire size + http://www.explorerforum.com/photopost/data/500/black_steel_wheels.gif
SM nailed it

YouTube- 2011 Jeep Gran Cherokee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwzLvQS6opo)
New Grand Cherokee FTW.
Looking at snapshots of a 4x4 on some rocks proves absolutely nothing.


Before this thread gets horribly derailed, I think the OP Jeep is a good buy. At least take it for a test drive

[Spider Monkey]

What if I told you such a vehicle exists that still drifts like mad, goes airborne over train tracks at least once a week, and currently has 242,xxx on the odometer? I know thangs.


I would total believe you. I didn't say they don't exist bb. Hell, I have one.

[Jamesypoo]

I would total believe you. I didn't say they don't exist bb. Hell, I have one.

Aye? One will flip if drift and the other probably doesn't have a quarter of the mileage. I'm confused. Are you talking about your ghost truck again?

[evildave101]

4 Wheel Off Road Magazine is wrong.

DOTS

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s116/evildave151/trucks/20f119e4.jpg

Before this thread gets horribly derailed, I think the OP Jeep is a good buy. At least take it for a test drive

concur

[Spider Monkey]

Aye? One will flip if drift and the other probably doesn't have a quarter of the mileage. I'm confused. Are you talking about your ghost truck again?Sorry, I was relating to my Jeep being capable of doing all of that in the sand. And it onyl has 80K miles on it. Not sure what miles have to do with anything launching off mountains though...

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s116/evildave151/trucks/20f119e4.jpg



concur

That is clearly a SAS.

[evildave101]

That is clearly a SAS.

solid axle suspension

that is my grand cherokee...

[Spider Monkey]

solid axle suspension

that is my grand cherokee...

Solid Axle Swap.

Learn yo terms bro.

[_AnGeL_]

:fp:

[evildave101]

no swap, learn yo jeeps bro

GC gets a bad rap, but they good rigs, and with a few mods they can be perty bad ass in the rocks.

it takes a lot more to get them on 35s then a tj, but they have the same suspension and axles (from 93 to 04)

now would you quit trollin me....

[mackin]

Fuck yeah!

[jesus]

Why don't one of you faggots just post specs and then go fuck each other?

[evildave101]

its all about the foreplay

[Tiger Bass]

Chrysler era Jeep. Keep on moving.

[brynm]

That's what I was wondering if it was legit or not, last thing I need is to be riding around with my it's a jeep thing decal offending ppl :laugh:

and the 4.0 is the only way to go? I know they make a 4 cyl

Would definitely go for 4.0 over the 2.5. IIRC the 4.0 is only off the 2.5's mileage by 1 or 2 mpg hwy but has way more power and torque. I've been toying with the idea of selling my car and picking up a cherokee myself.

[brynm]

And sorry SM but it looks like Dave is right on this one

http://www.allpar.com/model/99gc.html


The Jeep Grand Cherokee made its debut with Bob Lutz behind the wheel, driving straight through a glass window into the Detroit Auto Show. Everything about the Grand Cherokee was new, including the factory, Jefferson North. Export models were made in Graz, Austria, and South America.

The first generation: 1993-1998 Jeep ZJ
Work on the Grand Cherokee started at AMC it was to be the next-generation Cherokee, but when it came out, planners believed there was room in the market for the new, similarly sized but upmarket version and the older, less expensive, more "workaday" Cherokee. Hence, the “Grand” Cherokee, coded ZJ.

Making life easier for the marketers, the new version had a 4.5 inch longer wheelbase than the Cherokee, with eight inches more length, five inches more rear-seat hip room, three inches more front-seat shoulder room, 7.4 cubic feet more cargo space, and 4-inch wider rear doors. That helped to make it “grander.”



With safety, comfort, and four wheel drive to get buyers through on-road snow, the Grand Cherokee was purchased by affluent buyers, competing with luxury vehicles for driveway space. According to engineering chief Francois J. Castaing, speaking in 1992, "the Grand Cherokee sets a new standard for on-road ride, handling, and comfort in a sport utility vehicle. It moves that standard closer to some of the best sports sedans on the market today. ... Grand Cherokee improves upon the traditional off-road Jeep virtues of toughness, durability, and go-anywhere utility.”

The Jeep Grand Cherokee had the industry’s first SUV airbag; standard four wheel antilock brakes; the only standard SUV rear wiper/washer; the most efficient air conditioner in its class, despite R134 regrigerant. Its unibody structure was stiffer and lighter than the body-on-frame construction used by most competitors, resulting in lower noise and better ride and handling, on- and off-road.

The Grand Cherokee had the most powerful engine in its class, a standard 4.0 liter straight-six with 190 horsepower (shared with Cherokee and Wrangler); unibody construction (first in the class); high torsional rigidity that allowed for a softer suspension; and the lowest weight of any vehicle in the class, despite having the most front and rear shoulder and hip room.

The QuadraCoil solid axle, coil spring, multilink front and rear suspension system was noted for slashing costs but providing greater durability, ride, handling, and off-road capability than competitors with more buzzword-compliant systems. Engineers noted that the vehicle’s inherent vibration frequency seemed to leave drivers feeling more refreshed than many "more refined" competitors.

Buyers had a choice of part time 4WD, full-time 4WD, and the new QuadraTrac AWD system with a center-mounted viscous coupling that, when needed, automatically locks the center differential for maximum torque transfer.

The 1993-98 Grand Cherokee came in Base (which later became SE), Laredo, Limited, and Grand Wagoneer form; even the base model had full instrumentation and cloth seats, while the Laredo added power windows and locks, cruise, body cladding, and aluminum wheels. The Limited had colored lower body classing, leather seats, and more options including a trip computer. The Grand Wagoneer name was brought back for a special 318-powered Grand Cherokee with false wood body cladding. The 318 was an optional engine for the Grand Cherokee all the way through to 1998; it was replaced by the 4.7 V8, which, according to suspension engineer Bob Sheaves, had strong AMC influences in its design.

In 1996, the model was refreshed with minor exterior changes, while the interior gained dual airbags and a better seat fabric. The 4.0 liter engine was retuned to provide more torque and less noise (moving down to 185 hp), notably using a special intake noise reduction system. The Limited gained numerous luxury features and more options. Also, some export models gained a new Aspen option package.

A five speed manual transmission was available in 1993 and 1994. This was followed by an Orvis Edition from 1995 to 1997, essentially a color package and trim package. In 1997 and 1998, a TSi (taken from Eagle’s naming scheme) edition showed up with minor cosmetic changes, 225/70R16 tires on alloy wheels, leather, and powerful stereo. The big guns were reserved for 1998, to sell Grand Cherokees when people knew a new version was imminent; the Chrysler 360 V8 engine was installed under the hood, and numerous options were added; the result was called the 5.9 Limited in the US, and Limited LX elsewhere. The 360 pumped out 245 horsepower and 345 poound-feet of torque for a 0-60 time of about 7 seconds, making it the world’s fastest SUV for 1998.

[jesus]

DG's reply about his tires:

31 x 10.50 15 have to put 3 inch lift on it to fit. That's as big as u kan go without kuttin

[Spider Monkey]

And sorry SM but it looks like Dave is right on this one

http://www.allpar.com/model/99gc.html

Allpar is wrong.

DG's reply about his tires:

You don't have to lift to put 31's on anything bro. lol

[_AnGeL_]

i got 35's on my stratus/

[DUSSIN]

you too !

[fanninator]

i got 35's on my stratus/

cool story bro! i do to. its just not a stratus.....

[fanninator]

pardon the masking, as i dont have any pic un masked. that was the day after paint. yeah it was humid

[boxdgm]

Dave is right, my 94 GC had a Dana 30 front straight axle with cv axle shafts.

[dirtysouth31]

i hax 01 grand

[Spider Monkey]

Dave is right, my 94 GC had a Dana 30 front straight axle with cv axle shafts.

Oh look. Another liar.

[Superlifted06FX4]

STFU dumbass. You don't know the fucking history.

[Spider Monkey]

STFU dumbass. You don't know the fucking history.

You should probably address who you're talking to in that post.

[fanninator]

on these Cherokees. They are ugly as hell but seem to be cheap, have decent mileage and would be bad in east coast winters.

http://www.autotrader.com/dealers/dda/detail.jsp?ct=u&address=01080&resultCar=283669521&dealership_view_name=newenglandmotors&car_id=283669521&dealer_id=55870041

Purpose of car is to get me to and from work (85mi RT) and have enough room for two 12" funky pups.

:howrude:

[Superlifted06FX4]

You should probably address who you're talking to in that post.

You should know who I'm talking to.

[IamDeMan]

You should know who I'm talking to.

Actually, no, we do not know who the fuck you are talking to. We could make assumptions, but without you directly addressing it we just don't know.

[Spider Monkey]

You should know who I'm talking to.
vThisv Try a little harder idiot.
Actually, no, we do not know who the fuck you are talking to. We could make assumptions, but without you directly addressing it we just don't know.

[Superlifted06FX4]

vThisv Try a little harder idiot.

I was talkin to you. You are the only dumbass ITT that doesn't know wtf he is talking about.

[Spider Monkey]

I was talkin to you. You are the only dumbass ITT that doesn't know wtf he is talking about.

That's what we were all waiting for. Took you long enough.


I'm so far under your skin I'm swimming in your bone marrow bro.

:bowrofl:

[evildave101]

lulz

what size tires you run on your tj, sm?

[Spider Monkey]

lulz

what size tires you run on your tj, sm?

35's bro. That's as big as I'm willing to go on a D44.

[evildave101]

i concur

35 is a good size for a tj

[JimJ]

http://www.heise.de/autos/imgs/14/3/0/3/5/8/6/8c5fbf194f7c0f75.jpeg

uh oh

[evildave101]

ive seen those before

some of them, you just bolt them on like you would a wheel

[JimJ]

I don't know if I like that better, or the 6x6 Defender conversions that are out there :)

[evildave101]

there is a local guy that built a 6 wheel drive, 4 wheel steer cherokee - older stile FSJ

let me see if i can find a pic

[evildave101]

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s116/evildave151/102_1066.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s116/evildave151/102_1067.jpg

[Spider Monkey]

i concur

35 is a bad size for a tj

Yup it is the sweet spot for a 6" lift.

[evildave101]

hes also built an 8 wheel drive willys wagon

[evildave101]

Yup it is the sweet spot for a 6" lift.

youve got a long arm kit, correct?

those are nice

[Spider Monkey]

youve got a long arm kit, correct?

those are nice

nDeed. Rubicon Express Longarm.

[Tiger Bass]

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s116/evildave151/102_1066.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s116/evildave151/102_1067.jpg

I would drive that for sure.

[evildave101]

nDeed. Rubicon Express Longarm.

i been looking at a clatons kit for the GC some day

[mackin]

35's bro. That's as big as I'm willing to go on a D44.

Pics of Jeep needed ITT

[Spider Monkey]

Pics of Jeep needed ITT

Bro srs? They're all over this joint.

[fanninator]

i thought you had an xj...hum, who else had an xj on here?

[Superlifted06FX4]

PM does. I'd rock a 2 door XJ if I can find one.

[brynm]

Would drive.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XYHP13HamQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okSQUrNKYu0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27P1BuZeyKI&NR=1

And LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmV42SUqUmk&feature=related

[undeadxsunshine]

I want something like this
http://york.craigslist.org/ctd/1906695771.html

plus like a 5 inch lift

[evildave101]

I want something like this
http://york.craigslist.org/ctd/1906695771.html

plus like a 5 inch lift

the first thing to do to that truck is replace the all wheel drive t-cast with a part time np 231 with a SYE kit

[brynm]

I want something like this
http://york.craigslist.org/ctd/1906695771.html

plus like a 5 inch lift

You could probably get the zj in the last vid I posted pretty cheap.

[mackin]

Bro srs? They're all over this joint.

You know that Spider Monkey and Jeep comes back with way too many results.

[Spider Monkey]

You know that Spider Monkey and Jeep comes back with way too many results.

:wat: